Musk endeavours

[Howard]

What is lost to a great many "ordinary" people is that they could have an electric car now, but are scared away by reports about charging infrastructure.

If it is a second car that is only used for a short commute, runs to the shops etc, has a charger at home with off-road parking, then it is a no-brainer to go electric.

There must be more than a million cars on the road that fit that description.

Meatyfool..

Are you sure you are right? Mrs H's car requirement fits that description. She changed last year from a brilliant BMW 330e which was charged each night in the garage. (The cost of extending the lease wasn't economical.) Despite our preference for a BEV, we ended up with a new petrol Golf 1.4 which is a very nice second car. It was much cheaper to lease than any comparable BEV including the EGolf, despite any subsidies.

Whilst the cost of electricity is cheaper than petrol, for a low mileage (6k a year) second car which gets 44 mpg (measured on spreadsheet) the overall costs of ownership were much lower for a petrol Golf than any BEV available at the time.

I was impressed with the Nissan Leaf which our local dealer lent me for the day. A nice car to drive, but expensive to buy or lease at the time, and a little bit larger than the Golf.

Obviously second hand BEVs are cheaper, but so are their ICE equivalents and buyers are worried about battery life as well as the other issues you mention.

regards

Howard

[Howard]

PS Have just had a quick look at the relative costs of leasing Golfs. A 1.5 Auto ICE is around £230 a month for a 48 month term, 8k a year. For an E Golf you will pay around £254 a month.

So with no road tax cost for the E Golf the overall cost is closer than last year. But I doubt if you'd save £34 a month on fuel unless one had solar panels.

So not a "no brainer".

Howard

https://leasing.com/independent-brokers ... 423051544/

[odysseus2000]

Howard
Whilst the cost of electricity is cheaper than petrol, for a low mileage (6k a year) second car which gets 44 mpg (measured on spreadsheet) the overall costs of ownership were much lower for a petrol Golf than any BEV available at the time.

Surprised the mpg is that low.

My Volvo V70, a much bigger and heavier car than a golf, with a five cylinder 2.5 litre diesel does over 42 mpg.

Regards,

[Howard]

Howard
Whilst the cost of electricity is cheaper than petrol, for a low mileage (6k a year) second car which gets 44 mpg (measured on spreadsheet) the overall costs of ownership were much lower for a petrol Golf than any BEV available at the time.

Surprised the mpg is that low.

My Volvo V70, a much bigger and heavier car than a golf, with a five cylinder 2.5 litre diesel does over 42 mpg.

Regards,

We live in the country and, with no buses, a typical journey for our second car is 4 miles to get to the local supermarket or town. (And after cooling down, 4 miles back). At around 6k miles a year most of its journeys are very short. So a BEV would be ideal (and the BMW 330e got more than 75 mpg doing the same short journeys!)

Regards

Howard

[BobbyD]

PS Have just had a quick look at the relative costs of leasing Golfs. A 1.5 Auto ICE is around £230 a month for a 48 month term, 8k a year. For an E Golf you will pay around £254 a month.

So with no road tax cost for the E Golf the overall cost is closer than last year. But I doubt if you'd save £34 a month on fuel unless one had solar panels.

So not a "no brainer".

Howard

https://leasing.com/independent-brokers ... 423051544/

No brainer is a little difficult to score as it rather depends on each customers demands, which are not universal. There are electric cars out there which will cover the job description of an awful lot of ICE's which were sold this year, and not automatically with a price increase so arduous that it would stop the decision being a no brainer to those with relatively healthy wallets and an environmental bent. To others the price difference, or charging rates on cheaper cars or..., or ... will stop it being considered let alone being considered a no brainer.

As far as affordability goes I'm assuming the e-Citigo is going to set a new bar at £17k for 170 mile range, but is that right? What's the cheapest electric car with a range of 100 miles currently available?

One thing we should be able to look forwards to over the next few years is a better coverage of the range for those who want to go electric, with customers being able to find a car suitable for them rather than trying to work out if they can make one of the three current electric architypes work for them.

[TUK020]

VW agree:



- https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EK9JGufWwAAP6NF.jpg:large

Original presentation here: https://www.volkswagenag.com/presence/i ... adshow.pdf

When I first started in sales, a drunken sales manager confided the secret to good forecasting:
"Give a date, or a quantity, but never the two together."
This chart has gone one better...........

[BobbyD]

When I first started in sales, a drunken sales manager confided the secret to good forecasting:
"Give a date, or a quantity, but never the two together."
This chart has gone one better...........

I think you are reading slightly more in to it than was intended. Here's what we think will happen and here's a couple of the major reasons why which I'm going to mention briefly in the 90 seconds we are going to spend on this cell...

[odysseus2000]

Tesla Chinese made model 3 being shipped:

https://www.tesmanian.com/blogs/tesmani ... deliveries

regards,

[BobbyD]

Cybertruck retains familial hatred of inanimate objects:

ELON MUSK CRASHES TESLA CYBERTRUCK INTO BOLLARD AFTER NIGHT OUT

- https://www.independent.co.uk/life-styl ... 38921.html

[BobbyD]

Thousands were paid to use extra renewable electricity on windy weekend

UK homes using new smart-energy tariffs urged to take advantage of record windfarm power

Thousands of households were paid to use extra renewable electricity over the weekend as windfarms generated unprecedented levels of clean power.

Homes using a new type of smart-energy tariff were urged to plug in their electric vehicles overnight and set their dishwasher on a timer to take advantage of the record renewables in the early hours of the morning.

...In the past, only energy-intensive companies would be able to claim a fee for helping to balance the system by making use of the extra electricity. However, homes using smart-meter tariffs can lay claim to a renewables windfall too.

https://www.theguardian.com/business/20 ... dy-weekend

[odysseus2000]

Film of Elon driving the Cyber:

https://twitter.com/smartertrader/statu ... 24321?s=20

Regards,

[odysseus2000]

Cathie Wood fund manager on the cyber truck & Tesla:

https://youtu.be/UwPkts0u0co

Regards,

[odysseus2000]

Fully charged on Tesla power wall update & some very interesting data on future payments for grid export:

https://youtu.be/gP51JjnWvLo

Regards

[Howard]

Cathie Wood fund manager on the cyber truck & Tesla:

https://youtu.be/UwPkts0u0co

Regards,

She (Ark) sold nearly 21,000 Tesla shares on 11 December. Is this blatant "pump and dump"?

regards

Howard

[odysseus2000]

Cathie Wood fund manager on the cyber truck & Tesla:

https://youtu.be/UwPkts0u0co

Regards,

She (Ark) sold nearly 21,000 Tesla shares on 11 December. Is this blatant "pump and dump"?

regards

Howard

Most investors/traders continually buy and sell parts of holdings and Ark had over 1 million shares not very long ago & were adding:

https://fintel.io/soh/us/tsla/ark-investment-management

Regards,

[odysseus2000]

Model Y seen on the test track:

https://www.teslarati.com/tesla-model-y ... ack-video/

Regards,

[odysseus2000]

Interesting video on a wind turbine financial scam and also a simple calculation as go why wind turbine output power is proportional to the cube of the wind speed, not the square as one might naively think:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WG-vTc7SwU0

Regards,

[odysseus2000]

Interesting commentary on why the author believes that the solar/storage business at Tesla will become very large:

https://seekingalpha.com/article/431246 ... g-business

Regards,

[BobbyD]

Cautionary Tales Ep 6 – How Britain Invented, Then Ignored, Blitzkrieg

- http://timharford.com/2019/12/cautionar ... litzkrieg/

Tim Harford on disruptive innovation and architectural innovation. Some of the themes might seem familiar to Musk Endeavours residents...

[odysseus2000]

Cautionary Tales Ep 6 – How Britain Invented, Then Ignored, Blitzkrieg

- http://timharford.com/2019/12/cautionar ... litzkrieg/

Tim Harford on disruptive innovation and architectural innovation. Some of the themes might seem familiar to Musk Endeavours residents...

They may seem familiar, but no matter how often I repeat them, most everyone thinks I am tálking nonsense & that is why disruptive tech changes the world & makes fortunes for folk who get on board.

Regards,