odysseus2000 wrote:BobbyD
Well apparently Musk because he posted it, you because you quoted it, engineering explained guy because he debunked it and anybody who disagrees with, what was rhe phrase he used 'shady sales practices'...
Since all 0-60 times are measured this way, why does anyone care?
Clearly one could anyhow, redefine the start point, or use thrusters to go well below the quoted times.
Additionally there is all manner of crudeness in the analysis. Applying Newton's laws on average to argue the relationship between deceleration and acceleration and then to say this only applies to road cars that are made and a whole host of other handwaving.
If the guy wants to argue this is in detail he will need to substantially refine his analysis and do some very accurate measurements.
As things are one has a white board covered with approximations coupled with a series of unsupported and wild statements that make no sense.
Sure if you have no engineering/physics knowledge one can be impressed but for anyone who such knowledge it is like the scrawling of a semi-literate with no skin in the game and as far as I know nothing but a wild sense that the analysis is valid when it clearly is not.
Regards,
You're conveniently overlooking one point, which is made first - and which the rest of the video is providing supporting arguments for.
On the sales page Tesla state the 0-60 for the S LR at 3.2s, Plaid at 1.99s. and for Plaid+ at <1.99s, all uncaveated.
On the feature details page the 0-60 times for the Plaid and the Plaid+ but not the S LR are both asterisked, the asterisk leading you '*With first foot of rollout subtracted.'.
The claim that all 0-60 times are measured this way is not only wrong, it's laughable when it doesn't even appear that all Model S 0-60 times are measured this way, since they do not provide the same caveat for the S LR time...
...and if Tesla thinks this information requires disclosure why not put it on the sales page, rather than hiding it a layer further down?
It's not even like the 0-60 would be slow without the rollout, it's just an obsessive need to claim the max rather than deliver the max which shows a distinct fragility compared to say Porsche whose 'underpromise and overdeliver' mantra you very amusingly attempted to attach to Tesla at one point...
