Lootman wrote:GoSeigen wrote: UK stocks must be unbelievably cheap now. Can't understand why everyone hates them.
The problem is that UK stocks have been "unbelievably cheap" for years now. You could have made that same statement 5, 10 or 15 years ago, and the under-performance just carried on.
I didn't make the statement five years ago though, I made it now.
For example the FTSE-100 has doubled since its low in the financial crisis 15 years ago. Not bad, you might say. But the S&P 500 is up seven-fold in that same time period. Buying the UK market just because it is "cheap" has been a disastrous strategy and an expensive mistake. Has something materially changed?
I didn't buy the FTSE100 15 years ago -- though I did close out a lot of short positions in individual stocks (in Jul 1019). I bought gilts and bank bonds 15 years ago. I started buying FTSE futures in 2020 after the COVID correction. I've been short S&P500 forever but reducing the short position on the dips, with a huge covering purchase in 2018, amongst others.
I can't actually change the past and wouldn't because the returns have been stellar. Certainly not a disastrous strategy or expensive mistake.
That is all the rear view mirror. I invest for the future not the past.
Has something materially changed? Yes. Two decades have elapsed. My hair is grey. My kids have been born and grown up. Gilt yields have been run all the way down to negative levels. The UK has been shafted for 13 years by a hapless, economically clueless series of governments who have borrowed extravagantly and monetised much of it. Globalisation has run its course. Inflation is back.
Two decades. And now I'm ready to buy the FTSE. Clearly many investors think that will be a mistake as the past extrapolates seamlessly into the future. I'm quite content to take the other side of their trade.
GS