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Crap January?

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Re: Crap January?

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Postby GeoffF100 » February 5th, 2018, 4:15 pm

today is pretty bad, but again.. it goes up again. it always does, just a matter of time.

Not so. Only two stock markets have lasted 100 years. I expect that they all go bust in the end. Never invest money in equities unless you are prepared to lose it.

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Re: Crap January?

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Postby monabri » February 5th, 2018, 5:03 pm

"Crap January"? ....February is looking much worse and it's only 5 days old!

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Re: Crap January?

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Postby scottnsilky » February 5th, 2018, 5:12 pm

Crap February too, unless, of course, it's a buying opportunity. I might top up on VOD, my holding is a little on the small size. My all time high was also December 31, down about 4% ,or so now, maybe a little more after today!

dp

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Re: Crap January?

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Postby Urbandreamer » February 5th, 2018, 5:46 pm

scottnsilky wrote:Crap February too, unless, of course, it's a buying opportunity. I might top up on VOD, my holding is a little on the small size. My all time high was also December 31, down about 4% ,or so now, maybe a little more after today!

dp


Indeed. The FTSE is now almost 5% down (4.9%) since 2/1. My portfolio both rose more than the FTSE 100 and has fallen more. Currently I'm still beating the index, but it's difficult to crow about 1.7%. TBH it's that small it could be assumed to be random chance.

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Re: Crap January?

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Postby Pipsmum » February 6th, 2018, 9:56 am

Mine is currently showing 11.36% down but most is made of decent yielders as long as they keep doing so. The very best overall moment was @+2.39% in June 17 in an ISA and +15.85% in the vantage at that same time, but very temporarily. Shows it can be up there too for some reassurance. How low can this go I wonder. Not sure I want to know except for shopping.

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Re: Crap January?

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Postby Urbandreamer » February 6th, 2018, 10:53 am

Pipsmum wrote:Mine is currently showing 11.36% down but most is made of decent yielders as long as they keep doing so. The very best overall moment was @+2.39% in June 17 in an ISA and +15.85% in the vantage at that same time, but very temporarily. Shows it can be up there too for some reassurance. How low can this go I wonder. Not sure I want to know except for shopping.


Today I'm down more than that from my high. Indeed I know that from April I'm slightly underwater.

I also reacted today by selling a moderate chunk. I'm not sure until I enter the details in my records but it's probably 3-4% of my portfolio. Or to put it another way I have increased my cash holdings to the sort of amounts others are comfortable with.

Why?

Well it's very difficult to explain. I didn't sell during the financial crash or the Brexit collapse. Indeed I bought during those times. The best explanation that I can come up with is that I have been feeling uncomfortable about the market for a couple of weeks and seriously thought about reducing my exposure on Fryday. It took me until today to get arround to doing so.

Some feel that this is a good buying opertunity. I feel that it is too early to take that view.

We shall see over the next few months if I over or under reacted.

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Re: Crap January?

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Postby melonfool » February 6th, 2018, 1:24 pm

UK stuff in my portfolio seems to be down about 2% on the day and US stuff 4.5%.

Mel

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Re: Crap January?

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Postby scottnsilky » March 3rd, 2018, 4:11 pm

Crap March too! What do you mean it's only 2 days old? Two days is a long time in investing. I wasted a couple of minutes on some meaningless research, it seems the FTSE 100 is down 7.9% YTD, 250 down 5.5%, and the 350 down 7.7%. Judging by the general tenor of news at the moment, I'm not surprised.

I think March is not known for being a great month for investments, historically.

Is it time to invest the cash in my account ?

dp

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Re: Crap January?

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Postby swill453 » March 3rd, 2018, 4:16 pm

Well the FTSE All Share Total Return is only back where it was in September, and above where it was a year ago. So as far as I can see it's just noise.

Of course it could still change drastically, one way or another.

Scott.

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Crap Jan & Feb!

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Postby YeeWo » March 4th, 2018, 4:08 pm

FWIW in Value Terms my portfolio is now YTD down >9%. The culprits shown in the table below: -

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     | 03-Jan | 03-Mar |       
IMB  | £31.43 | £25.84 | 17.79%
RB   | £67.49 | £56.90 | 15.69%
INCH |  £7.97 |  £6.75 | 15.37%
VOD  |  £2.33 |  £1.99 | 14.58%
BATS | £49.37 | £42.20 | 14.52%
REL  | £17.08 | £14.68 | 14.08%
BP   |  £5.24 |  £4.64 | 11.43%
DGE  | £26.87 | £23.81 | 11.39%
RDSB | £25.35 | £22.80 | 10.08%
ULVR | £40.59 | £37.13 |  8.54%
BLND |  £6.86 |  £6.28 |  8.51%
AZN  | £51.66 | £47.36 |  8.32%
HSBA |  £7.63 |  £7.05 |  7.60%
JLT  | £13.82 | £12.88 |  6.80%
IHG  | £46.94 | £44.54 |  5.11%
G4S  |  £2.65 |  £2.54 |  4.04%
RR   |  £8.51 |  £8.17 |  3.95%
GSK  | £13.43 | £12.90 |  3.95%
WPP  | £13.03 | £12.66 |  2.84%
CCH  | £23.78 | £23.64 |  0.59%
SN   | £12.65 | £12.64 |  0.08%
The table excludes any Dividend Credits received, purely SP (under)performance only. I'm going to do nothing rash and hope that shareprices' remain depressed for the new ISA season after 31 March! Good Luck all........

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Re: Crap January?

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Postby BusyBumbleBee » March 4th, 2018, 6:18 pm

I'm going to do nothing rash and hope that share prices' remain depressed for the new ISA season after 31 March!


OMG: The ISA season is a marketing tool - like Christmas, Father's Day and the like. I always invest at the beginning of the tax year and not at the end.

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Re: Crap January?

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Postby PinkDalek » March 4th, 2018, 6:40 pm

BusyBumbleBee wrote:
I'm going to do nothing rash and hope that share prices' remain depressed for the new ISA season after 31 March!


OMG: The ISA season is a marketing tool - like Christmas, Father's Day and the like. I always invest at the beginning of the tax year and not at the end.


I thought that is what YeeWoo meant, without specifically commenting that the new subscription year starts on 6 April.


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