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Religion and Philosophy
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we are introducing this on a trial basis and that respect for other's views is important e.g. phrases like "your imaginary friend" or "you will go to hell" are not appropriate
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Postby UncleEbenezer » December 17th, 2016, 8:42 pm

Having the answer, my imaginary friend and I pause our headlong rush to hell just long enough to ponder on the question. :twisted:

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Re: 42

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Postby Lootman » December 17th, 2016, 8:57 pm

There is little doubt amongst contemporary philosophers that the greatest metaphysician to tackle the ultimate question about the meaning of life was Peter Cook (sound only)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3WzlZT10Es

He is also reported to have said that the meaning of life is to pass time pleasurably. He added that there might in fact be a more serious meaning of life but he had been too busy passing time pleasurably to have noticed.

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Re: 42

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Postby RowdyReptile » December 18th, 2016, 6:59 pm

Didn't Monty Python have a movie about this?

That didn't wrap things up enough?

Ok...The debate continues I suppose.

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Re: 42

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Postby redsturgeon » December 18th, 2016, 7:16 pm

The "42" quote comes from "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy which was the answer finally spat out by the computer Deep Thought after millions of years when asked the famous question.

"The Meaning of Life" was a Monty Python Film which was basically just a collection of roughly related sketches possibly the best being "the Galaxy Song".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=buqtdpuZxvk

The search goes on...

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Re: 42

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Postby RowdyReptile » December 18th, 2016, 8:10 pm

Or, as had been suggested to me in the past, it comes from Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure.....

"Be excellent to each other". One of the greater philosophical films of our age, I imagine. ;)

RR

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Re: 42

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Postby stooz » December 18th, 2016, 8:28 pm

Why does life need a meaning? Is there even an answer?

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Re: 42

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Postby kempiejon » December 18th, 2016, 8:50 pm

Life is a long agonized illness only curable by death

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Re: 42

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Postby Lootman » December 18th, 2016, 8:57 pm

kempiejon wrote:Life is a long agonized illness only curable by death

You're an existentialist, clearly.

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Re: 42

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Postby RowdyReptile » December 18th, 2016, 8:58 pm

stooz wrote:Why does life need a meaning? Is there even an answer?


I think that is where the problem starts. It was random and meaningless, but people want to assign this meaning via thoughts of political, philosophical or a religious nature. You know...there seem to be some that have it all figured out.

;)

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Re: 42

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Postby redsturgeon » December 18th, 2016, 9:09 pm

Perhaps the meaning of life lies within the struggle to find some meaning to your life.

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Re: 42

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Postby NomoneyNohoney » December 19th, 2016, 11:13 am

For whatever reason, the meaning of human life seems to be to replicate.

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Re: 42

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Postby csearle » December 19th, 2016, 4:14 pm

NomoneyNohoney wrote:For whatever reason, the meaning of human life seems to be to replicate.

Had we humans not had a drive to replicate we perhaps wouldn't have made it to the stage where we could contemplate whether life has a meaning.

I think therefore that replication seems to be part of life's meaning because, at least in our case, it is a necessary prerequisite.

This hasn't stopped me in the past though citing having children as the only hard and fast thing that seems to make any sense.

Regards,
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Re: 42

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Postby Lootman » December 19th, 2016, 5:01 pm

On a more serious note, I do not think life has any meaning. It just "is" until you die and then it isn't. That is not to say that searching for meaning is a bad thing, although desperately needing there to be meaning might be worrying.

This book takes a decent stab at the question, by someone who had a number of years in a concentration camp to inform his views on meaning:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Man's_Search_for_Meaning

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Re: 42

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Postby kempiejon » December 19th, 2016, 6:54 pm

Lootman wrote:
kempiejon wrote:Life is a long agonized illness only curable by death

You're an existentialist, clearly.

a fan of Sartre and Spike Milligan

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Re: 42

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Postby Clariman » December 21st, 2016, 11:03 am

My apologies for giving this board the title of "meaning of life". I was trying to get away from the TMF equivalent name, so a new tone could be set. But it is a rather glib title.

As a non-believer, I don't think that there is a meaning (i.e. purpose) to life, - and I am quite comfortable with that idea. But while I'm here, I want to enjoy it and I don't want to cause harm or upset to others. Of course, one can create 'meaning' by doing good or being a parent but there is no designed purpose of life.

My observation of those with a faith is that they feel a need to see a meaning in life. Over the years, my wife and I have played ying and yang with her protestant work ethic and my atheist-can't-always-be-@rsed ethic :lol:

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Re: 42

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Postby jfgw » February 9th, 2017, 7:29 pm

Hey, I'm a metaphysical solipsist: All of my friends are imaginary. (Both of them!)

Ok, I'm not, but can you (if you exist) prove otherwise? I have no real evidence that anyone-else or anything-else other than my own consciousness (and whatever that needs for its own existence) exists. Other people seem to be a lot like me so I assume that they are just as real. I don't even know how long I have existed. For all I know, I was switched on, fully pre-programmed with all of my memories, five minutes ago.

Julian F. G. W.

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Re: 42

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Postby beeswax » February 9th, 2017, 8:15 pm

In physics, the law of conservation of energy states that the total energy of an isolated system remains constant—it is said to be conserved over time. Energy can neither be created nor destroyed; rather, it transforms from one form to another. Therefore after death our atoms cannot be destroyed and so can appear somewhere else or indeed as someone else. Which has religious connotations of course.

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Re: 42

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Postby quelquod » February 10th, 2017, 9:17 am

Being slightly pedantic for the moment, your atoms are quite likely to be destroyed after death (even during life) and reform into something quite different. Conservation of energy, not matter.
But it's a funny sort of 'law' that just assumes that all available energy was just always 'there'. ;)


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