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Middle-aged spread and hypothyroidism

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Re: Middle-aged spread and hypothyroidism

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Postby Snorvey » February 1st, 2019, 2:04 pm

I've never read or seen any evidence that in humans or other animals that the consumption of less food than our bodies need leads to anything but loss of weight and eventually death; it would seem to be miraculous if it was otherwise.

Indeed.

Ye cannae break the laws o' physics laddie.

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Re: Middle-aged spread and hypothyroidism

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Postby UncleEbenezer » February 1st, 2019, 5:03 pm

ReformedCharacter wrote:
UncleEbenezer wrote:Just to put a counter-view to "eat less".

Last time I was in extreme poverty - 2002/2003 - I was down to one meal a day. Value-line pasta and pulses, with at best (as an indulgence) flavoursome but more expensive ingredients like onion, tomato, mushrooms.

I was also walking long distances: several miles each way to Tesco to buy those pasta-and-beans/lentils without the option after a cable on the bike broke and I couldn't afford to replace it.

And the waistline? Remained ample - just where it has been for the past 20+ years. Middle-age spread indeed.

Almost certainly you needed to eat even less if your goal was to lose weight (which it may not have been).

RC

My goal wasn't to starve my body, though I learned to cope better with hunger than I had done before.

I also learned that it's possible to survive on a budget of less than £2/week at today's prices.

As for the waistline, it didn't shrink in that time, but neither has it grown since then as I've become more affluent and vastly increased the food (and drink) budget. While I still know I could survive on £2/week, £2/day nowadays would seem thoroughly austere, even excluding eating out.

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Re: Middle-aged spread and hypothyroidism

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Postby ReformedCharacter » February 1st, 2019, 6:45 pm

UncleEbenezer wrote:My goal wasn't to starve my body, though I learned to cope better with hunger than I had done before.

I also learned that it's possible to survive on a budget of less than £2/week at today's prices.

As for the waistline, it didn't shrink in that time, but neither has it grown since then as I've become more affluent and vastly increased the food (and drink) budget. While I still know I could survive on £2/week, £2/day nowadays would seem thoroughly austere, even excluding eating out.


I too have lived on a very limited budget but by the sounds of it not as austere as yours. £2 a week does sound hard going and probably the worst of it is the limited choice. I wonder if you enjoy pasta these days :). I lived for a couple of years on little more than maize, beans, tomatoes and spinach. Healthy enough but I'd have given a lot for a decent loaf of bread and a pound of cheddar! Fortunately (because a lot of people live on it) the amino acids in maize and beans balance each other to provide a good balance for human protein requirements.

RC

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Re: Middle-aged spread and hypothyroidism

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Postby UncleEbenezer » February 1st, 2019, 10:45 pm

ReformedCharacter wrote:I too have lived on a very limited budget ... I lived for a couple of years on little more than maize, beans, tomatoes and spinach. Healthy enough but I'd have given a lot for a decent loaf of bread and a pound of cheddar!
RC

Hmm, sounds comparable. Nutritionally speaking, I'd imagine maize+beans must be pretty similar to pasta+beans. And yes, cheese was somewhere up there with booze in the grab-some-when-at-someone-else's-table league, 'cos it was far too expensive to buy!

It was 2003 when I was picking the blackberries as late as the second half of November, by which time they were of course shrivelled remains. These days I stop picking them at least two months earlier, as by that time they're clearly no longer as good as a range of fruit I can buy.

Still no noticeable effect on the waistline, as measured by trouser size. Mine had reached its current 38" by the turn of the century.

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Re: Middle-aged spread and hypothyroidism

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Postby Snorvey » February 4th, 2019, 9:07 am

Regarding sore knees / Arthritis etc

After doing a bit of reading, it would seem that Omega3 fish oil can have a positive effect in some cases.

So on the 17th of January, I started taking 2 x Tesco bought capsules per day and a couple of tins of tuna* per week and I have to say there has been a noticeable improvement.

Placebo effect? Perhaps. But the pain was real and it ain't there anymore.....

*It is not advisable to eat tuna or any other oily fish more than a couple of times a week. Apparently it's dues to the high(er) levels of mercury found in these types of fish.

Now that's something I never knew before.

It's also advised not to take too many of these Omega 3 capsules due to the risk of Vitamin A poisoning.

Something else I never knew!

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Re: Middle-aged spread and hypothyroidism

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Postby redsturgeon » February 6th, 2019, 10:04 am

Tuna is quite high in mercury but other fish are lower and can be eaten more than once a week.

https://www.disabled-world.com/calculat ... ercury.php

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Re: Middle-aged spread and hypothyroidism

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Postby nimnarb » February 8th, 2019, 7:38 pm

Snorvey wrote:I'm 51 and did 24 hour fasts once a week until July last year. From there I trained myself into not eating after dinnertime (my big failing...choc... wine etc) then to eating just 3 meals a day. No sugar and little alcohol

I too have a dodgy knee and enjoy cycling. The weather is often to easy an excuse not to go though. I had a turbo trainer but it wasn't the same. So I indoor row 4 or 5 times a week and do an occasional weights session. (for reps, not sheer weight).

I was 15 stone a year ago and now tip the scales at 11 stone 8.

When you're fitter, you just want to get out there... hence all the walking recently.


I want to get down to that weight again but I'm a foodie...........anyway, Snorvey.. interested in your rowing machine. It would appear that it exersizes the lot, having looked online. Mine would have to go outside though,(ample space and covered) don't have the room indoors. Saw on House of Cards a rowing machine with a water bowl at the bottom, looked real cool.

I also lost from about 15 stone down to 12.5 in 3 months last year but it was more mind over matter and half killed myself running on the spot for hours on end.... until I found a few incredible restaurants and only that mattered. :D Seriously, got to do something and stomach starting to spill over and effort putting my pants on. Not to mention trying to give up the puffs which makes me more hungry.................arrggghhhh but think a rowing machine would give me a purpose again to lose weight quickly..............or perhaps its all wishful thinking?

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Re: Middle-aged spread and hypothyroidism

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Postby Snorvey » February 9th, 2019, 6:46 pm

Almost everyone I've heard that has used a water rower loves it. Apart from sneering Concept 2 owners.

My mate has a C2 and the damn thing is so ugly and noisy he has to keep it in the garage (where its cold) And its seat is so uncomfortable as well.

Whichever one you choose, rowing is the business. 84% of your muscles are employed in a rowing stroke and there are significant cardio benefits.

and..... when storm Erik is blowing a hooly outside, you can get a cool powerhour in without leaving youre tv screen.

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Re: Middle-aged spread and hypothyroidism

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Postby scotia » February 10th, 2019, 12:13 am

Snorvey wrote:Whichever one you choose, rowing is the business. 84% of your muscles are employed in a rowing stroke and there are significant cardio benefits.

And there's always the added excitement of hooking a decent sized trout :) .
But the boats don't go out until the brown trout season starts in the middle of March - so its bicycle time on the local trails in the off season.
But I'm a bit puzzled to the references about keeping the boat in the garage, and being close to a TV screen.
Our boats are anchored in the loch, and they are not fitted with TV screens. And as for blowing a hooly, my lad once ventured out in such a breeze, and the rope to his drogue (an underwater parachute that acts as a sea anchor) snapped, and he and the hooly disappeared fast down the loch. He got plenty of exercise rowing back!
However I've still got to admit that in spite of my rowing and cycling, the spare tyre around my waist is showing little signs of diminishing. Starvation beckons.

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Re: Middle-aged spread and hypothyroidism

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Postby Snorvey » February 10th, 2019, 9:28 am

Weight loss always begins in the kitchen.

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Re: Middle-aged spread and hypothyroidism

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Postby vrdiver » February 10th, 2019, 5:30 pm

Snorvey wrote: Weight loss always begins in the kitchen.


Or, in my experience: Weight loss always begins and ends in the kitchen.

Just been making sourdough bagels. Think I'm gonna need a bigger rowing machine ;)

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