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Re: What's it called when...

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Postby vrdiver » August 27th, 2019, 9:33 pm


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Re: What's it called when...

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Postby AleisterCrowley » August 27th, 2019, 9:53 pm

In some cases it may be a tautology, perhaps?

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Re: What's it called when...

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Postby Arborbridge » August 27th, 2019, 10:29 pm

Redundancy.

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Re: What's it called when...

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Postby vrdiver » August 28th, 2019, 7:37 am

Arborbridge wrote:Redundancy.

Isn't "redundancy" the desired outcome for politicians who practise tautological pleonasms?

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Re: What's it called when...

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Postby Watis » August 28th, 2019, 8:46 am

Snorvey wrote:....people add in unnecessary extra words into a sentence or statement - for example, the current trend among politicians to add in the word 'absolutely' to try and make their lies more believable or, as in a car advert I read earlier, 'full' MOT until March 2020' (is there any other kind?)

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Verbosity?

Prolixity?

HTH,

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Re: What's it called when...

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Postby scrumpyjack » August 28th, 2019, 8:53 am

Otiose

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Re: What's it called when...

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Postby Villa » August 28th, 2019, 9:08 am

Those words would, in the context, be ‘empty intensifiers’.

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Re: What's it called when...

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Postby pochisoldi » August 28th, 2019, 9:16 am

Villa wrote:Those words would, in the context, be ‘empty intensifiers’.


Absol-flippin-lutely...

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Re: What's it called when...

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Postby Lootman » August 28th, 2019, 4:30 pm

Villa wrote:Those words would, in the context, be ‘empty intensifiers’.

I think "intensifier" is a valid description but whether or not their use is "empty" is a matter of opinion. One could discount the use of any adjective or adverb on that basis and, indeed, some writing style books recommend that neither be used.

But to my mind they do add information. They don't add to the facts of what is being stated, but they do convey information about the utterer's degree of confidence and passion about the assertion. In other words they qualify the subject rather than the predicate of the sentence.

So for example when an [expletive deleted] fan says "I totally f'ing hate Spurs" that connotes more than a mere indication that he does not support them. It conveys a heartfelt visceral repugnance.

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Re: What's it called when...

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Postby redsturgeon » August 30th, 2019, 8:54 am

Marketing

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Re: What's it called when...

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Postby XFool » August 30th, 2019, 1:08 pm

redsturgeon wrote:Marketing

Politics?

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Re: What's it called when...

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Postby Clariman » August 30th, 2019, 1:51 pm

It could be argued that this post caused my face to erupt into a very large jovial grin, combined with an equally large and frustrated yet momentary grimace, one might say.

Or in emoticon :) :(

I am writing my postgraduate dissertation and it amazes me how many [unnecessary] words I use. My [initial] draft had 18,500 words which I reduced to 15,000 [words] without removing any [real] content!

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Re: What's it called when...

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Postby AleisterCrowley » August 30th, 2019, 3:12 pm

I totally 100% agree with you!

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Re: What's it called when...

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Postby moorfield » August 30th, 2019, 10:59 pm

Snorvey wrote:....people add in unnecessary extra words into a sentence or statement - for example, the current trend among politicians to add in the word 'absolutely' to try and make their lies more believable or, as in a car advert I read earlier, 'full' MOT until March 2020' (is there any other kind?)


Verbal Diarrhoea.

Or, less coarsely, Flannel.

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Re: What's it called when...

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Postby Dod101 » August 31st, 2019, 2:02 pm

But for most MPs, why use one word when three will do?

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