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Adjective sought

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Postby csearle » September 1st, 2019, 11:55 pm

DAK if there an adjective that describes someone that, when argument fails them, resorts instead to suppression of the opposing opinion to win the argument? C.

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Re: Adjective sought

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Postby Clitheroekid » September 2nd, 2019, 12:25 am

Putinian? ;)

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Re: Adjective sought

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Postby BellaHubby » September 2nd, 2019, 8:42 am

Johnsonian?

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Re: Adjective sought

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Postby tikunetih » September 2nd, 2019, 9:21 am

BellaHubby wrote:Johnsonian?



I think "blojonian" is the correct term.

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Re: Adjective sought

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Postby redsturgeon » September 2nd, 2019, 9:32 am

Totalitarianist

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Re: Adjective sought

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Postby csearle » September 2nd, 2019, 10:25 am

Thanks team.

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Re: Adjective sought

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Postby Arborbridge » September 2nd, 2019, 10:38 am

csearle wrote:Thanks team.



The flaw is, that it doesn't win the argument.

And please don't say: "Oh yes it does!" :lol:

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Re: Adjective sought

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Postby chas49 » September 3rd, 2019, 9:46 am

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Re: Adjective sought

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Postby chas49 » September 4th, 2019, 8:36 am

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Re: Adjective sought

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Postby jfgw » September 4th, 2019, 10:35 am

The best word I have found so far is "repudiator".

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Re: Adjective sought

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Postby Julian » September 5th, 2019, 10:14 am

I don't have a good answer but perhaps, derived from a very interesting short article that I found while trying to find an answer, someone who refutes (refutor?) might technically be the best word.

The article, well worth a read in my opinion, is here...

https://www.austincc.edu/buck/eng/1301/ ... gument.htm

- Julian

P.S. I can't speak for the other Julian but this one is aware that "The J team" seem to have come up with nouns rather than adjectives. Oops!

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Re: Adjective sought

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Postby servodude » September 6th, 2019, 7:00 am

csearle wrote:DAK if there an adjective that describes someone that, when argument fails them, resorts instead to suppression of the opposing opinion to win the argument? C.


it might help if you qualify what you mean by supression here:
- subjugation? - i.e. suppression of the other party by force
- hiding? - viz trying to prevent the argument from being heard
or something else

Two really good websites I like for explaining lapses in critical thinking are:
https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/
https://yourbias.is/

you might find something among the contents of those

- sd

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Re: Adjective sought

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Postby csearle » September 6th, 2019, 7:33 am

servodude wrote:it might help if you qualify what you mean by supression here:
- subjugation? - i.e. suppression of the other party by force
- hiding? - viz trying to prevent the argument from being heard
or something else

Two really good websites I like for explaining lapses in critical thinking are:
https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/
https://yourbias.is/

you might find something among the contents of those
Thanks, I'll take a look later after work. I was thinking of the "trying to prevent the argument from being heard" direction. C.

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Re: Adjective sought

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Postby chas49 » September 6th, 2019, 8:56 am

Julian wrote:I don't have a good answer but perhaps, derived from a very interesting short article that I found while trying to find an answer, someone who refutes (refutor?) might technically be the best word.

The article, well worth a read in my opinion, is here...

https://www.austincc.edu/buck/eng/1301/ ... gument.htm

- Julian

P.S. I can't speak for the other Julian but this one is aware that "The J team" seem to have come up with nouns rather than adjectives. Oops!


Leaving aside the issue of nouns vs adjectives, repudiate seems better than refute. Repudiate is roughly equivalent to "I disagree", whereas refute is more like "Here is evidence to show you're wrong".

https://grammarist.com/usage/repudiate-vs-refute/

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Re: Adjective sought

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Postby servodude » September 6th, 2019, 9:24 am

csearle wrote:
servodude wrote:it might help if you qualify what you mean by supression here:
- subjugation? - i.e. suppression of the other party by force
- hiding? - viz trying to prevent the argument from being heard
or something else

Two really good websites I like for explaining lapses in critical thinking are:
https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/
https://yourbias.is/

you might find something among the contents of those
Thanks, I'll take a look later after work. I was thinking of the "trying to prevent the argument from being heard" direction. C.


Depends on context (as most things!) but how about: refractive

-sd

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Re: Adjective sought

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Postby servodude » September 6th, 2019, 9:54 am

servodude wrote:
csearle wrote:
servodude wrote:it might help if you qualify what you mean by supression here:
- subjugation? - i.e. suppression of the other party by force
- hiding? - viz trying to prevent the argument from being heard
or something else

Two really good websites I like for explaining lapses in critical thinking are:
https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/
https://yourbias.is/

you might find something among the contents of those
Thanks, I'll take a look later after work. I was thinking of the "trying to prevent the argument from being heard" direction. C.


Depends on context (as most things!) but how about: refractive

-sd

Damn autocorrect! I meant redactive!

Grrrr
- sd


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