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Adjective sought

Posted: September 1st, 2019, 11:55 pm
by csearle
DAK if there an adjective that describes someone that, when argument fails them, resorts instead to suppression of the opposing opinion to win the argument? C.

Re: Adjective sought

Posted: September 2nd, 2019, 12:25 am
by Clitheroekid
Putinian? ;)

Re: Adjective sought

Posted: September 2nd, 2019, 8:42 am
by BellaHubby
Johnsonian?

Re: Adjective sought

Posted: September 2nd, 2019, 9:21 am
by tikunetih
BellaHubby wrote:Johnsonian?



I think "blojonian" is the correct term.

Re: Adjective sought

Posted: September 2nd, 2019, 9:32 am
by redsturgeon
Totalitarianist

John

Re: Adjective sought

Posted: September 2nd, 2019, 10:25 am
by csearle
Thanks team.

Re: Adjective sought

Posted: September 2nd, 2019, 10:38 am
by Arborbridge
csearle wrote:Thanks team.



The flaw is, that it doesn't win the argument.

And please don't say: "Oh yes it does!" :lol:

Re: Adjective sought

Posted: September 3rd, 2019, 9:46 am
by chas49
Moderator Message:
This discussion is not really a DAK, and should be continued elsewhere if necessary. Thread locked (chas49
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Re: Adjective sought

Posted: September 4th, 2019, 8:36 am
by chas49
Moderator Message:
On reflection, the original question is a DAK even if most (all?) of the answers so far are arguably not factual.

The thread is unlocked to permit discussion within the guidelines for this board. Please stick to those when responding. (chas49)

Re: Adjective sought

Posted: September 4th, 2019, 10:35 am
by jfgw
The best word I have found so far is "repudiator".

Julian F. G. W.

Re: Adjective sought

Posted: September 5th, 2019, 10:14 am
by Julian
I don't have a good answer but perhaps, derived from a very interesting short article that I found while trying to find an answer, someone who refutes (refutor?) might technically be the best word.

The article, well worth a read in my opinion, is here...

https://www.austincc.edu/buck/eng/1301/ ... gument.htm

- Julian

P.S. I can't speak for the other Julian but this one is aware that "The J team" seem to have come up with nouns rather than adjectives. Oops!

Re: Adjective sought

Posted: September 6th, 2019, 7:00 am
by servodude
csearle wrote:DAK if there an adjective that describes someone that, when argument fails them, resorts instead to suppression of the opposing opinion to win the argument? C.


it might help if you qualify what you mean by supression here:
- subjugation? - i.e. suppression of the other party by force
- hiding? - viz trying to prevent the argument from being heard
or something else

Two really good websites I like for explaining lapses in critical thinking are:
https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/
https://yourbias.is/

you might find something among the contents of those

- sd

Re: Adjective sought

Posted: September 6th, 2019, 7:33 am
by csearle
servodude wrote:it might help if you qualify what you mean by supression here:
- subjugation? - i.e. suppression of the other party by force
- hiding? - viz trying to prevent the argument from being heard
or something else

Two really good websites I like for explaining lapses in critical thinking are:
https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/
https://yourbias.is/

you might find something among the contents of those
Thanks, I'll take a look later after work. I was thinking of the "trying to prevent the argument from being heard" direction. C.

Re: Adjective sought

Posted: September 6th, 2019, 8:56 am
by chas49
Julian wrote:I don't have a good answer but perhaps, derived from a very interesting short article that I found while trying to find an answer, someone who refutes (refutor?) might technically be the best word.

The article, well worth a read in my opinion, is here...

https://www.austincc.edu/buck/eng/1301/ ... gument.htm

- Julian

P.S. I can't speak for the other Julian but this one is aware that "The J team" seem to have come up with nouns rather than adjectives. Oops!


Leaving aside the issue of nouns vs adjectives, repudiate seems better than refute. Repudiate is roughly equivalent to "I disagree", whereas refute is more like "Here is evidence to show you're wrong".

https://grammarist.com/usage/repudiate-vs-refute/

Re: Adjective sought

Posted: September 6th, 2019, 9:24 am
by servodude
csearle wrote:
servodude wrote:it might help if you qualify what you mean by supression here:
- subjugation? - i.e. suppression of the other party by force
- hiding? - viz trying to prevent the argument from being heard
or something else

Two really good websites I like for explaining lapses in critical thinking are:
https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/
https://yourbias.is/

you might find something among the contents of those
Thanks, I'll take a look later after work. I was thinking of the "trying to prevent the argument from being heard" direction. C.


Depends on context (as most things!) but how about: refractive

-sd

Re: Adjective sought

Posted: September 6th, 2019, 9:54 am
by servodude
servodude wrote:
csearle wrote:
servodude wrote:it might help if you qualify what you mean by supression here:
- subjugation? - i.e. suppression of the other party by force
- hiding? - viz trying to prevent the argument from being heard
or something else

Two really good websites I like for explaining lapses in critical thinking are:
https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/
https://yourbias.is/

you might find something among the contents of those
Thanks, I'll take a look later after work. I was thinking of the "trying to prevent the argument from being heard" direction. C.


Depends on context (as most things!) but how about: refractive

-sd

Damn autocorrect! I meant redactive!

Grrrr
- sd