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Tall Brown Pole?

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Postby feder1 » May 25th, 2021, 10:08 am

Over the road from us, several highway maintainence vehicles erected a tall brown wooden telegraph pole next to a flat roofed shop first thing this morning.

There are climbing pegs from half way up.

This was all done very quickly and since we had nipped out all the vehicles had been and gone.

DAK what purpose this pole will serve please?

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Re: Tall Brown Pole?

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Postby Mike4 » May 25th, 2021, 10:20 am

feder1 wrote:Over the road from us, several highway maintainence vehicles erected a tall brown wooden telegraph pole next to a flat roofed shop first thing this morning.

There are climbing pegs from half way up.

This was all done very quickly and since we had nipped out all the vehicles had been and gone.

DAK what purpose this pole will serve please?



Sounds to me as though it is as you named it, a telegraph pole!

Next, the GPO (or whatever they are called this week) will attach a wire or two to it, perhaps...

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Re: Tall Brown Pole?

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Postby bungeejumper » May 25th, 2021, 10:31 am

Our near-neighbours had a pole (telephone and overhead electricity supply) in their back garden moved/replaced, because it was in the way of a kitchen extension that they were planning. The new pole went up some weeks before the cables were moved, and then the old pole was finally removed.

But it was a full-on planning application jobbie, and we were invited to submit any objections to the pole in the usual way, and it cost the neighbours an absolute fortune. It's a bit odd that things have got this far without the OP being consulted. ;)

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Re: Tall Brown Pole?

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Postby feder1 » May 25th, 2021, 10:41 am

I was surprised to see such a big piece of timber being used when we seem to have metal poles everywhere else.

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Re: Tall Brown Pole?

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Postby bungeejumper » May 25th, 2021, 11:00 am

feder1 wrote:I was surprised to see such a big piece of timber being used when we seem to have metal poles everywhere else.

It sounds like a good start. It won't go ping in high winds and rain, it won't attract lightning, it won't rot when small dogs pee against it. It'll be one less piece of harshness in the urban landscape And it'll save a huge amount of energy at the steel mill. What's not to like?

Ob story: A friend had a hillside house and smallholding on a mountainside in southern France, and he needed a phone and internet connection. Under French law, the authorities were obliged to give him one. Eighteen telegraph poles later, he was finally connected. :lol:

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Re: Tall Brown Pole?

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Postby tjh290633 » May 25th, 2021, 11:23 am

feder1 wrote:I was surprised to see such a big piece of timber being used when we seem to have metal poles everywhere else.

All of them round our way are wooden, distributing from the underground main. It may be that they use a steel post where they have a right angle, which cannot be countered with stays. Back in the 1930s we lived on a T-junction and had a metal post for electricity, but the telephone posts were wood, and not many people had phones. I've just had a look at a picture from 1953, which shows the metal post well. However, a picture from 2009 shows that it was by then a wooden post.

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Re: Tall Brown Pole?

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Postby XFool » May 25th, 2021, 11:33 am

Mike4 wrote:Sounds to me as though it is as you named it, a telegraph pole!

Next, the GPO (or whatever they are called this week) will attach a wire or two to it, perhaps...

"GPO"? Not since some time in autumn 1969! :)


P.S. Wikipedia suggests 1 October 1969

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Re: Tall Brown Pole?

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Postby UncleEbenezer » May 25th, 2021, 12:00 pm

bungeejumper wrote:Ob story: A friend had a hillside house and smallholding on a mountainside in southern France, and he needed a phone and internet connection. Under French law, the authorities were obliged to give him one. Eighteen telegraph poles later, he was finally connected. :lol:

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How long ago?

Could the law in question not be satisfied by alternative means? Either wireless (4g), or if that's no more practical than the wire then satellite?

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Re: Tall Brown Pole?

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Postby bungeejumper » May 25th, 2021, 12:23 pm

UncleEbenezer wrote:
bungeejumper wrote:Ob story: A friend had a hillside house and smallholding on a mountainside in southern France, and he needed a phone and internet connection. Under French law, the authorities were obliged to give him one. Eighteen telegraph poles later, he was finally connected. :lol:

How long ago?

Could the law in question not be satisfied by alternative means? Either wireless (4g), or if that's no more practical than the wire then satellite?

(Gallic shrug) No idea, monsieur :| - French local politics aren't my speciality. I do know that he got his electricity more or less straight from the nearest pylon, so that wouldn't have been a convenient route for a phone cable up from the small town 800 feet below. It was well before the days of 4G, though.

Even he was surprised to get his line installed so quickly. But then, France always does seem able to rustle up a dozen trucks, thirty men and 100 tonnes of concrete at short notice. Especially when there's open unspoiled countryside to be 'modernised'. :(

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Re: Tall Brown Pole?

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Postby Dod101 » May 25th, 2021, 12:37 pm

I thought that, following Brexit, Poles had returned from whence they came.

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Re: Tall Brown Pole?

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Postby moorfield » May 25th, 2021, 2:30 pm

feder1 wrote:DAK what purpose this pole will serve please?



It's a 5G receiver for the nanochip "they" have injected into you with your Covid jab ?

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Re: Tall Brown Pole?

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Postby DrFfybes » May 25th, 2021, 3:16 pm

If it has climbing pegs up it then it is a comms pole rather than power, probably to provide Fibre directly to local premises.

As part of the "fibre city" initiative Openreach are required to provide fibre infrastructure to the premises. Rather than dig up and replace blocked ducts in the footway (most pf which are already full of in-use or obsolete cables) they find it cheaper and easier to go back to overheads. As no planning permission is required they can use that route.

They tried it in Exeter - the locals and Councillors were not impressed and they had to go back and do it the hard way.

https://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.php/2 ... -moan.html
https://www.devonlive.com/news/devon-ne ... es-2410019

Our road still had the 1960s wooden poles combined comms and overhead power supplies so we had no such issues.

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Re: Tall Brown Pole?

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Postby Breelander » May 25th, 2021, 3:22 pm

feder1 wrote:DAK what purpose this pole will serve please?


You may be able to determine that from any markings or tags attached to the pole.

https://www.telegraphpoleappreciationsociety.org/f-a-q/

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Re: Tall Brown Pole?

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Postby Mike4 » May 25th, 2021, 3:25 pm

There's an original still standing by the Trent & Mersey canal near Nuneaton.

Or there was last time I cruised it...


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Re: Tall Brown Pole?

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Postby csearle » May 25th, 2021, 8:01 pm

Dod101 wrote:I thought that, following Brexit, Poles had returned from whence they came.
Nor the upright ones. C.

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Re: Tall Brown Pole?

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Postby Sussexlad » May 25th, 2021, 8:27 pm

Mike4 wrote:There's an original still standing by the Trent & Mersey canal near Nuneaton.

Or there was last time I cruised it...


When I started as a Youth-in-Training in 1960 my first three month was with an overhead gang. There was one in Brighton 85' tall, which fortunately i never had to climb, I wouldn't have got my legs around it. The best I did was 50'. You had to be very trusting using a leather belt ! After three month on underground and another three on fitting, I ended up in the exchange, where I stayed and loved it.
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Re: Tall Brown Pole?

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Postby csearle » May 25th, 2021, 8:28 pm

Sussexlad wrote:You had to be very trusting using a leather belt !
Brave, very brave. C.

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Re: Tall Brown Pole?

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Postby ten0rman » May 26th, 2021, 10:53 am

Those belts were quite well made, stitched and rivetted. They were supposed to be treated every so often with some sort of leather dressing. Looked after, they were quite safe once you became used to the idea of leaning back in them. Actually the leather belts were used around the buttocks so in reality you sat in them.

I had one where the stitching started to undo. As you might expect, I refused to use it on the grounds of safety. After three days of no climbing, intervention by a higher ranking colleague procured a brand new belt in quick order.

They were replaced by a man-made belt. Nylon or something similar. These were a lot more floppy and were worn around the waist.

Hollow metal poles were used at one time, possibly in the 1980's. My recollection is that these poles were not for climbing, instead, the wires, insulated drop wires that is, were somehow inserted through a hatch near the bottom of the pole, pushed up the pole and allowed to "fall" over a muchroom shaped thingy at the top of the pole. The drop wire could then be erected to the customers premises. Quite how the dropwire got up the pole I can't remember, I assume there some mechanism, maybe a flexible steel rod a bit like the device used for clearing blocked drains.

One of these poles was erected near the rear of my house in the late '70's or early '80's, and I told my two young children to keep watching as the wire was growing up the inside of the pole! The things we tell our children!

Of course, being retired some 25 years, I am completely out of touch with the latest ideas, although it seems that they still do use wood poles. I suspect that wood poles have a lot of advantages - an amount of flexibility; able to have items screwed into them; longer life than metal.

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Re: Tall Brown Pole?

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Postby feder1 » June 1st, 2021, 9:24 am

Apparently the pole is for 5G.

There is also one a couple of hundred meters down the road.

Luckily we have both had two antivirus jabs. ;)

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Re: Tall Brown Pole?

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Postby AleisterCrowley » June 1st, 2021, 9:35 am

Hmm...wooden pole for '5G' - sounds most unlikely -although there may be some experimental pole share stuff going on
Where would the feeders go?
Our street furniture (as they are called) sites are a metal pole with a wider top section to accommodate the antennas
Feeders (plenty of, in some cases) go up the inside.
There would also be one or more street cabinets at the base for power/comms/radio


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