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Lizzy D update

Help and discussions for strategies to get out of debt
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Re: Lizzy D update for 2018

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Postby Alaric » January 25th, 2018, 12:25 pm

robbelg wrote:A mortgage is VERY different to an overdraft/Credit card etc.


Assuming it's been set up on a repayment basis, every month you are nibbling away at the debt.

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Re: Lizzy D update for 2018

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Postby lizzydripin » January 25th, 2018, 6:37 pm

The mortgage is a repayment mortgage with Santander repaid over 21 years, 62 payments of £1180.44 due to me being nervous and locking in to a 5 year fixed rate, then remaining payments will go to £1338.65 unless we remortgage at this point.

Any way this assumes we ever buy the house as there have been numerous obstacles:

Originally we just wanted to buy the house as a shared ownership property and rent part, it felt much more affordable. We were unable to proceed with this as the current owner had extended the property, kitchen extension and conservatory, they wanted extra money to cover this and we couldn't find a mortgage company that would lend under those circumstances. We should have walked away!!

The current owner decided to staircase the property and then sell the whole property freehold. First problem was they had not got building regs for the extensions. They now have obtained this for the kitchen extension but maintain it is not needed for the conservatory.

I had also stipulated when I offered them the full price that it was on condition that it included the summerhouse, which was extra when it was only costing us £118,000 for the 40% fair enough, they accepted my offer but have since said they want £400 for it.

Now we have a further hold up as the housing association want to retain some rights over the property and want to charge us a management fee for the communal areas. Our solicitor is raising some objections but who knows where it will go. All the other properties at that end of the road are still owned by them.

If we do not exchange contracts by the 9th of Feb the housing association will revalue the property.

We had been given a provisional exchange date of tomorrow originally but obviously this will not now happen. I have already given a date to the internet company and most my possessions are in boxes. No wonder they say buying a house is so stress full, I feel at rock bottom. The up and down roller coaster this has been has finally got to me. :cry:

Seriously considering pulling out but have not got the funds to start over.

All the best
Lizzy

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Re: Lizzy D update for 2018

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Postby midnightcatprowl » January 25th, 2018, 8:58 pm

Now we have a further hold up as the housing association want to retain some rights over the property and want to charge us a management fee for the communal areas. Our solicitor is raising some objections but who knows where it will go. All the other properties at that end of the road are still owned by them.

If we do not exchange contracts by the 9th of Feb the housing association will revalue the property.

We had been given a provisional exchange date of tomorrow originally but obviously this will not now happen. I have already given a date to the internet company and most my possessions are in boxes. No wonder they say buying a house is so stress full, I feel at rock bottom. The up and down roller coaster this has been has finally got to me. :cry:


Mmmm Bad behaviour on the part of the housing association - as they should have said this up front, but also some degree of negligence by your solicitor who should have been in a position to know this was a possibility. Lean hard on your solicitor, ring them every day or twice a day or better every couple of hours! If necessary take time off work if you possibly can and go and sit in the solicitor's office and make it clear you are not going away (take a flash of coffee and sandwiches with you) until they get it sorted. Solicitors are notoriously slow at doing things - and will always tell you it was the other party or the other party's solicitor who is to blame - unless you light a fire behind them! Solicitors can actually get things sorted remarkably fast when they realise they've no choice.

I'm sorry Lizzy about how you are feeling. All I can say to you is that anyone who has ever bought a house is familiar with the degree of stress involved and with the even greater levels of frustration involved. No one who has not bought a house can ever truly understand just how bad it can get and even people who've sold and bought many over the years still often find it incredibly stressful and unbelievably frustrating. After my third buy I swore I would never move again and haven't - if I end up in a nursing home the authorities will have to sell my house, it won't be me :D But seriously all the time younger friends and acquaintances are telling me about their awful house buying experiences and the delays and frustrations and stress. Something radical needs to be done about the house buying process in this country. It won't be in time to help you but I think it does help if you realise your feelings are quite natural and shared by so many. I can remember when I bought this house and there had been endless delays for no reason at all, I had to go into town to the solicitor and there was some excuse given for yet another delay in completion even though by then we'd exchanged contracts and I can still remember sort of waking up in floods of tears upstairs in the clothing department in M&S. I am not a tearful woman and I never buy clothes from M&S as they simply don't fit me even if I liked M&S clothes which I never have. I could only assume I was in a zombie like mode which was how I came to be upstairs in M&S. Not to mention that they didn't have a cafe then so I couldn't even drown my sorrows in coffee and cake!

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Re: Lizzy D update for 2018

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Postby lizzydripin » February 2nd, 2018, 6:31 pm

Thank you Midnight for your kind encouragement. I do realise I am not alone in this and it is a very stress full thing to do in any circumstances even if you are moving out of your own choice.

We are still not there yet though, the solicitor has managed now to get the restriction on internal alteration removed, totally ridiculous on a freehold property, but we still have the problem where it says that we may be liable for charges for repairs to the road, paths and communal areas. Apparently the way forward might be to ask for indemnity insurance. Although it now sounds unlikely that we can complete before the deadline as it takes time for the money to be transferred from the mortgage company.

I am just wondering if anyone noticed if I am missing anything from my SOA that I should have in as I really want to know that I can afford this and that there isn't something I have forgotten.

I should know by the end of next week one way or the other and on a positive note at least dry January is over. It took me ages to find the box I had packed the Gin in last night!! :lol:

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Re: Lizzy D update for 2018

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Postby Pastcaring » February 16th, 2018, 11:43 am

Hi Lizzy

As a long term investor I think it depends on the view of debt.

I now live in Australia,when I left the UK in the mid 1970s everybody was terrified of debt,we all lived in council houses,fooling ourselves that nodody could afford to buy a house,the terror of debt.

A friend I worked with bought a house for around 16,000 pounds,around 4 years wages at the time,how did he sleep at night I thought.The house is now worth around 150,000 pounds,six years wages?.I don't know.








The real returns on property look far less than the nominal return.

Now the debt,if you rent a house for your life then it is a debt you cannot see,so you don't worry about it.However the unseen debt is still there and still has to be paid.Shall we say your debt is 400,000pounds for your life of renting.At the end of it you have nothing.Shall we say the mortgage you repay is 500,000 pounds ,at the end of it you have a property say worth 500,000 pounds.Does it seem worth it now,does that ease the worry?

The risk is equal,life happens,for me a case of leaving the North east to a different country rather than town or city.I thought the industry I worked in would die,sadly it did( heavy engineering) .My friend managed to pay off his mortgage,like myself he is now retired,he went through spells of unemployment but survived.

For the first 30 years of my life I also was terrified of debt ,then I changed the way I thought,so I fully understand your fears.The last 40 yes of my life were knuckle down and pay the debt back.Asset prices rise over the years,what looks really expensive now will look very cheap in 30 yes time.In 30 yes time time most people will be scared of debt and saying exactly the same thing.How can anybody afford a house.

Other friends rented houses all of their lives,they could not see how the debt of rent worked out far more expensive than buying the house.When they were offered their council houses at half price in the late 1980 ,s they would still not buy them,the fear of debt.

The house they could've bought for around 10,000 quid back then may now be worth around 120 K.They still cannot see it,I hope you can.

Good luck


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