Arborbridge wrote:MDW1954 wrote:
Your acknowledgement that you are willfully and deliberately wasting volunteers moderators' time by posting the wrong stuff in the wrong place simply means that more of your posts will be deleted.
MDW1954
That isn't what I said, or what I meant. There's nothing "wilful" neither am I wasting moderators time - you are perfectly capable of doing that without
my help!
If there's a problem on a board, in my view I am better raising with that particular community since it will then be read by the people most conerned. It was LMF who set up this draconian system to which we often fall prey - and confusion as to the nicety of what should be posted where, so you can hardly blame posters if we get confused. As one who has only heard of the either the Biscuit Bar or what was it Room 101? - I do find it difficult to decided what should go where, and why. Before now, I've never even looked at these boards - no doubt I will learn more as I go along, but for the moment I just write as I see fit, where I believe it seems most appropriate.
The fact remains, that there are an enormous number of deletions on LMF compared with TMF (at least, if my experience is typical). This could be us telling us various things: a) the moderators are quicker to delete, b) the rules are more draconian b) the posters do not entirely understand the system. Whichever it is, this is a message which might point to some improvements being necessary.
Part of that could be communication - for example, posters complain that posts have "disappeared" without explanation. At a very basic level,to delete without explanation is poor etiquette, but more relevently, if one does not receive an email to say what the offence was, how is one to learn? The mods make a rod for their own backs if they do not PM people with an explanation - I'm willing to learn, but if no one can be bothered to point out where we've crossed the line, it makes more work for everyone.
Arb.
Arb.
Do you not think this is quite rude?
"I am better raising with that particular community...." - or, surely you are 'better' following the requirements of the site you are posting on?
"Draconian system"? Rude and hyperbolic.
"We often fall prey" - same. And really, many people manage to avoid 'falling prey' to it.
"Confusion as to the nicety" - no, a sensible structure so people can find things, follow the things they want to and not be distracted by other things. The vast majority of posters seem to manage it.
"The fact remains" - there is no 'fact' in your post, your posts are mainly assumption and opinion.
"There are an enormous amount of deletions" - you cannot possibly know this to be true. And not every deletion is equal either. If a topic goes off topic by one post, as mods have said, they will probably leave it, but then loads more carry on and the whole thread gets diverted, then people chip in that the posts are off topic and you end up with long threads with no substance, then yes, probably quite a few from one thread get deleted, but actually whole threads run with zero deletions.
"Compared with TMF" - please do share your workings.....
It has been explained time and time again by mods how much work it is to PM posters. And all mods have said they do their best to do this where they can. How can you ask of them to do MORE THAN their best? How? What do you expect of them? Where there are a lot of deletions for threads that have gone feral, it's too much to ask a mod to remember the name of every contributor (especially when it is something like acpy873xw0 which presumably mean something to the user but are difficult to remember) and PM them all, not everyone is sitting at a desk with a notepad to hand, I used to have to do this on my phone on the train and it just was not possible to PM people every time.
Calling it 'poor etiquette' is to totally misunderstand the nature of a discussion board, its users and moderation.
'The mods make a rod for their own backs' , 'if no one can be bothered' - I just find these phrases so rude to people who are there to keep the board nice and useful to people.
Mel