odysseus2000 wrote:The issue of obsolescence is a two hedged sword.
Do they do electric versions of those now?
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odysseus2000 wrote:The issue of obsolescence is a two hedged sword.
dealtn wrote:odysseus2000 wrote:
I doubt there are many folk on the planet who have not heard of SpaceX.
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Wow, that's some claim. I would be fairly sure 75% of those living in my house wouldn't have heard of it. Admittedly that's, statistically speaking, a very small sample size of your "folk on the planet", but I think you might be fooling yourself making such an assertion!
TUK020 wrote:odysseus2000 wrote:The issue of obsolescence is a two hedged sword.
Do they do electric versions of those now?
odysseus2000 wrote:The launch into orbit of Musk's midnight Cherry sports car made most of the news channels around the world.
People I have met from China & India know of SpaceX, so I am surprised that 3/4 of the people living in your house haven't heard of the sports car into orbit.
BobbyD wrote:odysseus2000 wrote:The launch into orbit of Musk's midnight Cherry sports car made most of the news channels around the world.
People I have met from China & India know of SpaceX, so I am surprised that 3/4 of the people living in your house haven't heard of the sports car into orbit.
Which brings us back to the strength of the Tesla bubble and why the <0.01% of the world's population who have bought a Tesla to date might not be a great guide to Tesla's future sales.
It's amazing what you might consider common knowledge but other people don't know. For example to pick one at random 50% of Americans don't know that Puerto Rico is American and that Puerto Ricans are full American citizens.
Assuming other people know what you know is dangerous and liable to result in misunderstanding. Assuming that because everybody you know knows something everybody else knows it is to be blind to the bubble we all live in.
odysseus2000 wrote:BobbyD wrote:odysseus2000 wrote:The launch into orbit of Musk's midnight Cherry sports car made most of the news channels around the world.
People I have met from China & India know of SpaceX, so I am surprised that 3/4 of the people living in your house haven't heard of the sports car into orbit.
Which brings us back to the strength of the Tesla bubble and why the <0.01% of the world's population who have bought a Tesla to date might not be a great guide to Tesla's future sales.
It's amazing what you might consider common knowledge but other people don't know. For example to pick one at random 50% of Americans don't know that Puerto Rico is American and that Puerto Ricans are full American citizens.
Assuming other people know what you know is dangerous and liable to result in misunderstanding. Assuming that because everybody you know knows something everybody else knows it is to be blind to the bubble we all live in.
I used to live in the US, so I have no trouble with US comprehension of events, like the girl at the credit union who wanted to know how many English dollars there were to the US dollar.
But it is always good to have such erudite contributions, telling me all kinds of useful and interesting stuff.
There are 7.5 billion people on earth, and you tell me that Tesla have sold to <0.01%, which equates to <7b.5e9x.0001 < 7.5e5 < 750,000 cars. Interesting!
However, Wiki say its a bit more:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tesla,_Inc.
at 816,155 cars produced.
Still 0.01% of the world population is a nice number to have in mind.
Regards,
odysseus2000 wrote:dealtn wrote:odysseus2000 wrote:
I doubt there are many folk on the planet who have not heard of SpaceX.
Regards,
Wow, that's some claim. I would be fairly sure 75% of those living in my house wouldn't have heard of it. Admittedly that's, statistically speaking, a very small sample size of your "folk on the planet", but I think you might be fooling yourself making such an assertion!
The launch into orbit of Musk's midnight Cherry sports car made most of the news channels around the world.
People I have met from China & India know of SpaceX, so I am surprised that 3/4 of the people living in your house haven't heard of the sports car into orbit.
Regards,
dealtn wrote:odysseus2000 wrote:dealtn wrote:
Wow, that's some claim. I would be fairly sure 75% of those living in my house wouldn't have heard of it. Admittedly that's, statistically speaking, a very small sample size of your "folk on the planet", but I think you might be fooling yourself making such an assertion!
The launch into orbit of Musk's midnight Cherry sports car made most of the news channels around the world.
People I have met from China & India know of SpaceX, so I am surprised that 3/4 of the people living in your house haven't heard of the sports car into orbit.
Regards,
In the same year as your "car stunt" over a billion people watched the World Cup final, or at least heard about it on "most of the news channels around the world". Without looking it up I would be extremely surprised if even the majority of the "many folk on the planet" could even tell you who won, let alone their opponents, the final score, where in the world it was played etc.
Your claim is simply ridiculous, and belittles any other other argument you want to make on the back of it if you genuinely believe it to be true. Feel as surprised as you like about the knowledge of the people in my house but my suspicion is they are pretty much a reflection of, at least the middle class, Western, variety of the "folk on the planet".
odysseus2000 wrote:These TV will get some kind of news feed and most of the news media including Aljezera, covered the sports car launch.
...Chinese folk in Shenzhen who I deal with certainly know about SpaceX and also the Chinese space program.
BobbyD wrote:odysseus2000 wrote:These TV will get some kind of news feed and most of the news media including Aljezera, covered the sports car launch.
...Chinese folk in Shenzhen who I deal with certainly know about SpaceX and also the Chinese space program.
Most people don't watch the news.
People you know is not a random and representative sample. They all have atleast one thing in common. Besides tv is so 20th century.
Elon Musk paid convicted fraudster to spread false paedophile claims about British cave rescue hero, court documents allege
‘Thin-skilled billionaire’ sought to ‘destroy’ diver who helped save 12 schoolboys because he criticised his mini-submarine, say lawyers
Elon Musk paid a convicted fraudster to smear a British diving hero who he baselessly called a paedophile, according to court documents.
The billionaire technology entrepreneur allegedly orchestrated a “malicious, false, and anonymous leak campaign” in a bid to trash the reputation of Vernon Unsworth, who helped to rescue a schoolboy football team trapped in a cave in Thailand last year.
The diver launched a defamation lawsuit last year after Mr Musk called him a “peado guy” and “child rapist”. He also suggested he had married a 12-year-old girl.
Howard wrote:Dyson gives up making electric cars.
I guess the moral is that it isn't as easy as it looks. To be honest I'm not surprised.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-50004184
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Howard
Howard wrote:Dyson gives up making electric cars.
I guess the moral is that it isn't as easy as it looks. To be honest I'm not surprised.
The firm, headed by inventor Sir James Dyson, said its engineers had developed a "fantastic electric car" but that it would not hit the roads because it was not "commercially viable".
Boeing partners with Porsche on electric flying car
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Dad sues Tesla after teens died in fiery crash while driving at 116mph
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The Fort Lauderdale Fire Department did not see a visible fire when they responded to the crash, but they sprayed it with water and foam anyway, according to a National Transportation Safety Board investigation. ‘During the loading of the car for removal from the scene, the battery reignited and was quickly extinguished. Upon arrival at the storage yard, the battery reignited again. A local fire department responded to the storage yard and extinguished the fire,’ the NTSB report says.
Tesla Smart Summon Feature Called ‘Glitchy’ by Consumer Reports
Smart Summon, the semi-autonomous feature some owners can use to fetch their cars, doesn’t live up to the Model 3 maker’s marketing hype, Consumer Reports magazine said.
The magazine spent several days testing the feature, which allows Tesla owners to tap their smartphone and remotely call for their car to pick them up. Tesla customers have flooded social media with a mixed bag of video reviews. Some show the system working as intended, while others capture scrapes with surrounding vehicles and narrowly avoided accidents.
odysseus2000 wrote:Howard wrote:Dyson gives up making electric cars.
I guess the moral is that it isn't as easy as it looks. To be honest I'm not surprised.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-50004184
regards
Howard
Interesting that both Nio and Dyson have had trouble developing BEV.
This news imho makes Tesla a whole lot more valuable, especially as it begins to look like they have cornered the current tech in two important areas: Battery and Super Capacitors and robotic driving.
I can currently find no other business that has batteries as advanced and reliable as Tesla's with the likely hood that a million miles is now possible for a Tesla battery pack.
On AI, no one else is close to a system that is of comparable cost to Tesla and they have by far the greatest data hoard of any of the robotic driving enterprises.
Additionally despite relentless short attacks and everyone and their dog bad mouthing Tesla they have remained robust and have an exciting portfolio of cars, commercial vehicles and storage. The only weak area being the Solar City roof top solar.
Meanwhile they are managing to harness SpaceX for branding and likely soon satellite communication with their fleet of vehicles.
Now, if I can get a lot of haters to post about how I am nuts I will feel even better. The danger for a Tesla equity holder is when everyone and their dogs is long Tesla and there are no shorts to throw in the towel and haters to change allegiences.
Regards,
Howard wrote:Ody
I’m not sure that Spacex will be a good brand image for Tesla. The Head of NASA made this comment yesterday:
Mr. Bridenstine also said he was not singling out SpaceX: “I’ve been critical of all contractors that overpromise and underdeliver.”
What a surprise ! Elon Musk, accused of overpromising and underdelivering.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/10/scie ... -musk.html
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Howard
Howard
Ody
I’m not sure that Spacex will be a good brand image for Tesla. The Head of NASA made this comment yesterday:
Mr. Bridenstine also said he was not singling out SpaceX: “I’ve been critical of all contractors that overpromise and underdeliver.”
What a surprise ! Elon Musk, accused of overpromising and underdelivering.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/10/scie ... -musk.html
regards
Howard
BobbyD
.but the throw away at the bottom shows an aspect of BEV's which is less often considered
The Fort Lauderdale Fire Department did not see a visible fire when they responded to the crash, but they sprayed it with water and foam anyway, according to a National Transportation Safety Board investigation. ‘During the loading of the car for removal from the scene, the battery reignited and was quickly extinguished. Upon arrival at the storage yard, the battery reignited again. A local fire department responded to the storage yard and extinguished the fire,’ the NTSB report says.
odysseus2000 wrote:BobbyD
.but the throw away at the bottom shows an aspect of BEV's which is less often considered
The Fort Lauderdale Fire Department did not see a visible fire when they responded to the crash, but they sprayed it with water and foam anyway, according to a National Transportation Safety Board investigation. ‘During the loading of the car for removal from the scene, the battery reignited and was quickly extinguished. Upon arrival at the storage yard, the battery reignited again. A local fire department responded to the storage yard and extinguished the fire,’ the NTSB report says.
How many petrol & diesel fires with ice cars?
Answer over 7,000 accidental fires per year in recent times:
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.u ... 80819.xlsx
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