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Easy way to climb hills..

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Easy way to climb hills..

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Postby AleisterCrowley » September 29th, 2020, 12:35 pm


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Re: Easy way to climb hills..

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Postby bungeejumper » September 29th, 2020, 12:40 pm

Looks like a good way to set fire to a hillside. :?

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Re: Easy way to climb hills..

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Postby AleisterCrowley » September 29th, 2020, 4:28 pm

It runs on fart gas - totally green and clean

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Re: Easy way to climb hills..

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Postby bluedonkey » September 29th, 2020, 4:42 pm

It's the sort of story that makes you double check the date.

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Re: Easy way to climb hills..

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Postby stevensfo » September 29th, 2020, 5:20 pm

AleisterCrowley wrote:https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-54331994
This looks like fun.


Given the cost of the equipment, the training and the insurance, and the risk of royalties claimed by the Iron Man 8-) , what's wrong with a helicopter?

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Re: Easy way to climb hills..

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Postby kiloran » September 29th, 2020, 5:24 pm

stevensfo wrote:
AleisterCrowley wrote:https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-54331994
This looks like fun.


Given the cost of the equipment, the training and the insurance, and the risk of royalties claimed by the Iron Man 8-) , what's wrong with a helicopter?

Steve

I don't think it's intended to replace a helicopter. It's to get a local paramedic to the patient quicker to start treatment, while waiting for a less-local helicopter or ambulance

--kiloran

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Re: Easy way to climb hills..

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Postby stevensfo » September 29th, 2020, 5:46 pm

kiloran wrote:
stevensfo wrote:
AleisterCrowley wrote:https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-54331994
This looks like fun.


Given the cost of the equipment, the training and the insurance, and the risk of royalties claimed by the Iron Man 8-) , what's wrong with a helicopter?

Steve

I don't think it's intended to replace a helicopter. It's to get a local paramedic to the patient quicker to start treatment, while waiting for a less-local helicopter or ambulance

--kiloran


Oh I see. Brilliant idea. As long as the patient has insurance that pays for all this, or pays for it himself rather than the godforsaken taxpayer, I'm all for it!

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Re: Easy way to climb hills..

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Postby bungeejumper » September 29th, 2020, 5:50 pm

Strewth, has anybody told the RAF?

https://www.theguardian.com/society/202 ... est-flight
the 1050bhp suit, which retails at £340,000 and has a top speed in excess of 80mph, is technically capable of reaching an altitude of 12,000ft, although for safety purposes it is flown lower.

Maybe that wouldn't be advisable, since this particular outfit is only designed for flying for five minutes at a time?

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Re: Easy way to climb hills..

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Postby AleisterCrowley » September 29th, 2020, 6:06 pm

Hope there's a parachute included, or at least a very reliable fuel gauge.

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Re: Easy way to climb hills..

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Postby swill453 » September 29th, 2020, 6:31 pm

bungeejumper wrote:
the 1050bhp suit, which retails at £340,000 and has a top speed in excess of 80mph, is technically capable of reaching an altitude of 12,000ft, although for safety purposes it is flown lower.

Maybe that wouldn't be advisable, since this particular outfit is only designed for flying for five minutes at a time?

Well it would take less than 2 minutes to get to 12,000 feet. Then you only have to worry about getting down...

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Re: Easy way to climb hills..

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Postby bungeejumper » September 29th, 2020, 7:10 pm

swill453 wrote:Well it would take less than 2 minutes to get to 12,000 feet. Then you only have to worry about getting down..

With the bhp of a Bugatti Veyron strapped to your wrists, that wouldn't surprise me. In fact I read somewhere that jetsuits of this type are rated as high as 14,500 feet, because the limit is set at how far you could descend in the five minutes after a technical problem occurred.

That would be with the engines running, of course. It would be a bit quicker if they weren't. :D

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Re: Easy way to climb hills..

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Postby redsturgeon » September 29th, 2020, 8:05 pm

A decent rider on an off road motorbike would be able to reach 90%b of cases in a similar time in all weathers at a fraction of the cost.

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Re: Easy way to climb hills..

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Postby stevensfo » October 1st, 2020, 3:31 pm

redsturgeon wrote:A decent rider on an off road motorbike would be able to reach 90%b of cases in a similar time in all weathers at a fraction of the cost.

John


Yes, and carry a hell of a lot more medical supplies and even a tent.

If the injuries weren't that grave, he could even bring the patient back down with him. Sure would cure any constipation the patient had! ;-)


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Re: Easy way to climb hills..

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Postby AleisterCrowley » October 1st, 2020, 4:52 pm

Perhaps 90%, but there are plenty of routes a bike couldn't manage (Crib Goch, CMD arête, Striding Edge etc etc)

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Re: Easy way to climb hills..

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Postby bungeejumper » October 1st, 2020, 5:32 pm

There'll always be an excuse reason for somebody to splash half a million's worth of somebody else's money for the sake of saving 10/15 minutes of response time. As long as somebody's prepared to foot the bill, and never mind the cost/effectiveness equation, there'll be a market for this kind of stuff.

Mind you, they'll never get me up in one of those things. Can you imagine what the pilots' insurance premiums must be like? ;)

For comparison's sake, the same kind of money will buy you a four seater Robinson R44 helicopter which can do 150 mph. On a mere 245 bhp engine. All you have to do then is find somewhere on the top of a lonesome rocky crag to land it. :|

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Re: Easy way to climb hills..

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Postby UncleEbenezer » October 1st, 2020, 6:06 pm

AleisterCrowley wrote:Perhaps 90%, but there are plenty of routes a bike couldn't manage (Crib Goch, CMD arête, Striding Edge etc etc)

That's a CHALLENGE you just issued!

Anecdote: once upon a time, I was cycle touring. Did a stretch of coast path, then saw a sign pointing where I'd just come from: "Dangerous path". Another sign pointed to an "Alternative path". The "Dangerous" route seemed more than a bit of an exaggeration!

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Re: Easy way to climb hills..

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Postby AleisterCrowley » October 1st, 2020, 7:16 pm

Do they still use St Bernards ? Possibly without the barrel of rum: maybe an IFAK is more useful ...and some flares and a bivvy bag

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Re: Easy way to climb hills..

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Postby Gersemi » October 1st, 2020, 9:04 pm

An off road motorbike could probably manage a lot of routes, but an injured person could well have fallen off a path to an inaccessable point.

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Re: Easy way to climb hills..

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Postby AleisterCrowley » October 1st, 2020, 10:02 pm

So, basically, a helicopter then .. :)

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Re: Easy way to climb hills..

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Postby AleisterCrowley » October 1st, 2020, 10:12 pm

A medic and no pilot? Hmm...


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