1nvest wrote:Why any lockdown. Could have been locked out (borders closed) but Johnson preferred for otherwise.
Fine (in principle) before the horse has bolted - or in this case, entered the stables. But pretty useless when you find he is already comfortably settled inside.
1nvest wrote:Attempts to secure the fewer than 1M who are more prone to die from Covid, the 0.1%, and survive perhaps another 5 years (95% of Covid deaths are elderly) ... 5 million life years, at a cost of 65 million life years locked in 'cells'.
ONSClinically extremely vulnerablePeople who are identified as clinically extremely vulnerable (CEV) are at very high risk of severe illness from the coronavirus (COVID-19). Up to 16 February 2021, CEV people were identified either because of a pre-existing condition or based on the clinical judgement of their clinician or GP that they are at higher risk of serious illness if they catch COVID-19. From 16 February 2021, individuals can still be identified as CEV by these routes, but also by COVID-19 population risk assessment. More information can be found in Guidance on shielding and protecting people who are CEV from COVID-19. The NHS identified approximately 2.2 million people as being CEV.
In February 2021, there were additions made to the Shielded Patient List following the COVID-19 population risk assessment, where a further 1.5 million people were advised to shield. The sample for this wave of the COVID High Risk Group Insights Study does not reflect the behaviour of the additional CEV people, as the sample was drawn before these people were added.1nvest wrote:There were more surplus (above average) deaths in the 1976 heatwave over a shorter period of time than Covid deaths in (unvaccinated) 2020. Scaled to the same population size the equivalent of 800K total deaths 1976, 700K total deaths 2020. Such spikes in surplus deaths are a natural occurrence. With many of those most vulnerable 0.1% now having already expired no doubt it will be claimed that it was the success of the vaccines rather than just a natural decline when the figures decline. Come to that, and out of a population of 66 million with a average 80 year life expectancy and you might expect 825K deaths a year to occur naturally. On that measure you may very well ask why the death toll was relatively low in 2020.
It wasn't.
Covid: 2020 saw most excess deaths since World War TwoBBC News"
Come to that, and out of a population of 66 million with a average 80 year life expectancy and you might expect 825K deaths a year to occur naturally."
So a simple death rate of 825k/66m = 1.25%
If you look at the chart in that BBC News article, for the last ten years the death rate (Age-standardise mortality rate) was under 1000 per 100,000 population. So under 1%
1nvest wrote:Lockdown did prevent the likes of the Nightingale centres being used. Much of the NHS went dark, GP's for instance. A small number of NHS have in contrast been overloaded - the Covid patients front end, whilst many of the other NHS units are idle.
Yes. And that was with lockdown. 'Just let it rip' and what would have happened? Do you reckon it would have been better? BTW, those other hospital units were idle because the staff were seconded for treating the COVID patients.
1nvest wrote:Lockdown it would seem was more as a cover for incompetence and poor management/utilisation of resources. Where many have had to pay a high price for a relatively few.
IMO "
Lockdown scepticism" is just another name for not facing the facts.