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Another plant identification request.

#166375

Postby Slarti » September 14th, 2018, 4:10 pm

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I think the plant to the left is a Foxglove, but does anybody have an idea what the one on the right is?

This has grown from nothing to the size shown in 2 weeks.

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Re: Another plant identification request.

#166377

Postby maximan » September 14th, 2018, 4:17 pm

Hi Slarti
I have wild strawberries that look like that.

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Re: Another plant identification request.

#166379

Postby maximan » September 14th, 2018, 4:21 pm

Sorry also should have said maybe Ladies Mantle.

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Re: Another plant identification request.

#166385

Postby Slarti » September 14th, 2018, 4:33 pm

maximan wrote:Hi Slarti
I have wild strawberries that look like that.


They would be welcome, though the birds would probably get them :D

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Re: Another plant identification request.

#166386

Postby Slarti » September 14th, 2018, 4:34 pm

maximan wrote:Sorry also should have said maybe Ladies Mantle.


Having looked at pictures of both wild strawberries and Ladies Mantle "my" leaves look spikier than either. But both are possibilities


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Re: Another plant identification request.

#166394

Postby mike » September 14th, 2018, 5:07 pm

I would say certainly not Lady's Mantle. It has hairy leaves and rain water balls up on them quite spectacularly.

Have you tried this to try to narrow it down a bit ?

http://www.botanicalkeys.co.uk/flora/content/SEARCH.ASP

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Re: Another plant identification request.

#166397

Postby scotia » September 14th, 2018, 5:12 pm

I'm reasonably certain its not wild strawberry. If it is, you will quickly get runners which will take over your garden!

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Re: Another plant identification request.

#166403

Postby Breelander » September 14th, 2018, 5:35 pm

Slarti wrote:I think the plant to the left is a Foxglove, but does anybody have an idea what the one on the right is?


Looks to me like Garlic Mustard (Alliaria petiolata) see these Google images in particular this one...

First year plants are low-growing rosettes with rounded, kidney-shaped leaves, scalloped on the edges
https://www.kingcounty.gov/services/env ... stard.aspx

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Re: Another plant identification request.

#166509

Postby colin » September 15th, 2018, 8:16 am

Yes its garlic mustard or hedge garlic

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Re: Another plant identification request.

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Postby BhotiPila » September 15th, 2018, 3:25 pm

Yes, I know it as Jack by the Hedge as well.
https://www.rhs.org.uk/Plants/41250/i-Alliaria-petiolata-i/Details

Cabbage family - you see the similarity to mustard & rape. Crush the leaves and they smell garlicky/mustardy ;) . It's quite tasty and those young leaves of yours are tender. Its not supposed to be so young at this time of year, should come up in springtime. Likes South facing hedge/fence lines. I use it in green salads where it adds a garlicky/mustardy zing, good in sarnies too. High in vitamin A and C. Here's a recipe for pesto:
http://meganhine.com/recipe/jack-by-the-hedge-recipe/

Like many of the family (broccoli, kale, cabbage) it has traces of cyanide so best not to eat it every day . . . . :shock:

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Re: Another plant identification request.

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Postby Slarti » September 15th, 2018, 5:52 pm

I shall go and bruise a leaf tomorrow and see if it smells of garlic.

Cheers guys

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Re: Another plant identification request.

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Postby Slarti » September 16th, 2018, 5:40 pm

Slarti wrote:I shall go and bruise a leaf tomorrow and see if it smells of garlic.


Yep, mild garlic smell, so identification achieved.

SWMBO says to remove it, so I shall.

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Re: Another plant identification request.

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Postby Breelander » September 17th, 2018, 12:10 am

Slarti wrote:Yep, mild garlic smell, so identification achieved.
SWMBO says to remove it, so I shall.


Yes, I do whenever I get it in my garden. Not a particularly attractive weed wild flower, unlike that Foxglove next to it.

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Re: Another plant identification request.

#166888

Postby colin » September 17th, 2018, 11:16 am

Not a particularly attractive weed wild flower, unlike that Foxglove next to it.



That depends on whether you are a butterfly or not, or even if you value a rich natural world beyond merely cosmetic values.

http://www.wildflowersuk.com/details.asp?ID=152

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Re: Another plant identification request.

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Postby Slarti » September 17th, 2018, 12:50 pm

colin wrote:
Not a particularly attractive weed wild flower, unlike that Foxglove next to it.



That depends on whether you are a butterfly or not, or even if you value a rich natural world beyond merely cosmetic values.

http://www.wildflowersuk.com/details.asp?ID=152


I'll have another word with her and see if it can have a reprieve until next year, at least. :D

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Re: Another plant identification request.

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Postby colin » September 17th, 2018, 3:42 pm

I don't know what the wider area around it looks like but I might be inclined to move it and the Foxglove, both are biennials that are adapted to woodland edge habitats so they will grow in semi shade, hedge garlic will grow about 3 foot high and if left to self seed form colonies as wide as conditions and striming allow. So a mixed colony of the two might look quite nice closer to your shady fence. Just strim the old growth back in September at a height above next years plants.

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Re: Another plant identification request.

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Postby Breelander » September 17th, 2018, 4:16 pm

colin wrote:.. a mixed colony of the two might look quite nice...


I'm all for bio diversity and wildlife friendly planting, but in a small garden it has to be aesthetically pleasing too. Field garlic doesn't make the grade IMHO. Foxglove, field poppy, verbascum, honesty and purple toadflax all do - their seed heads all being allowed into my compost heap for a 'surprise' further down the line.

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Re: Another plant identification request.

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Postby Nimrod103 » September 17th, 2018, 8:43 pm

Breelander wrote:
colin wrote:.. a mixed colony of the two might look quite nice...


I'm all for bio diversity and wildlife friendly planting, but in a small garden it has to be aesthetically pleasing too. Field garlic doesn't make the grade IMHO. Foxglove, field poppy, verbascum, honesty and purple toadflax all do - their seed heads all being allowed into my compost heap for a 'surprise' further down the line.


I have the same list of approved weeds, to which I have now added the yellow or common toadflax, which has larger flowers of yellow and orange but tends to be a bit straggly.

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Re: Another plant identification request.

#167118

Postby colin » September 18th, 2018, 10:21 am

What? No Dandelions for the bees and beetles in spring?

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Re: Another plant identification request.

#167130

Postby vrdiver » September 18th, 2018, 11:01 am

colin wrote:What? No Dandelions for the bees and beetles in spring?

I think I've got the dandelion quota :cry: Mrs VRD quite likes them (and daisies) so our lawn is "au naturel". The edges are frequented by frogs, so mowing and strimming are slow, cautious affairs, whilst the woodpile is the lair of all sorts of creepy crawlies; makes me feel guilty when I actually want to use some (I do give each piece a hefty clout to try and shake out any small residents so as to avoid their immolation). The only ones I have declared war on are the slugs and snails. Currently a losing battle; the little s0ds seem to be as addicted to coffee grounds as I am to coffee, rather than it discouraging them.

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