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Beerdetectorists; who brews this beer?

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Postby DiamondEcho » March 16th, 2019, 8:59 pm

I bought a couple of bottles of beer from a 'posh grocer' in London. They're the $-organic kind who go on about how vital traceability etc is.

Daylesford Session IPA, and Pale Ale. Both bottles from this west country (Glos) retailer and country estate are labeled as 'brewed in Scotland', with no further clues; strange.
As I want to list them on a beer-tasting website, I Googled them - no clues. So I need to list them according to their brewery, then rate them. I e-mailed Daylseford a week ago asking who the brewery is but they haven't replied.

Hmmm. Maybe they're embarrassed it's contract-brewed along-side 'Tennants Super-80 Shillings' or similar.... Can anyone with greater knowledge or web-skills divine who the brewery is?

Their IPA: https://www.daylesford.com/shop/wine-dr ... 3-5-330ml/
Their Pale Ale: https://www.daylesford.com/shop/wine-dr ... 5-6-330ml/

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Re: Beerdetectorists; who brews this beer?

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Postby AleisterCrowley » March 16th, 2019, 9:11 pm

Does it not say on the bottle (beyond brewed in Scotland) eg postcode? I guess not.
The Daylesford sites says "Our organic beers are vegan-friendly and made in a brewery that specializes in craft, experimental beer" so probably not Carlsberg Northampton, but doesn't narrow it down much..
[Probably BrewDog...]

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Re: Beerdetectorists; who brews this beer?

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Postby PinkDalek » March 16th, 2019, 9:21 pm

DiamondEcho wrote:I bought a couple of bottles of beer from a 'posh grocer' in London.


I couldn't find any reverse images of the bottles, so no luck there. What I did find is a couple of interesting items (neither of which answer your question):

JCB family https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carole_Bamford

Not the most enticing Balance sheet

https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/comp ... ng-history

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Re: Beerdetectorists; who brews this beer?

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Postby scrumpyjack » March 16th, 2019, 10:01 pm

It seems to be Lady Bamford's rather expensive hobby. Bamford as in the JCB billionaires

At least it's organic

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Re: Beerdetectorists; who brews this beer?

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Postby AleisterCrowley » March 16th, 2019, 10:03 pm

scrumpyjack wrote:
At least it's organic



So is urine...

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Re: Beerdetectorists; who brews this beer?

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Postby dionaeamuscipula » March 17th, 2019, 8:04 am

DiamondEcho wrote:I bought a couple of bottles of beer from a 'posh grocer' in London. They're the $-organic kind who go on about how vital traceability etc is.

Daylesford Session IPA, and Pale Ale. Both bottles from this west country (Glos) retailer and country estate are labeled as 'brewed in Scotland', with no further clues; strange.
As I want to list them on a beer-tasting website, I Googled them - no clues. So I need to list them according to their brewery, then rate them. I e-mailed Daylseford a week ago asking who the brewery is but they haven't replied.

Hmmm. Maybe they're embarrassed it's contract-brewed along-side 'Tennants Super-80 Shillings' or similar.... Can anyone with greater knowledge or web-skills divine who the brewery is?

Their IPA: https://www.daylesford.com/shop/wine-dr ... 3-5-330ml/
Their Pale Ale: https://www.daylesford.com/shop/wine-dr ... 5-6-330ml/


The IPA is this: https://www.blackislebrewery.com/product/goldfinch/

The Pale Ale is this: https://www.blackislebrewery.com/produc ... -pale-ale/

DM

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Re: Beerdetectorists; who brews this beer?

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Postby AleisterCrowley » March 17th, 2019, 1:41 pm

Well done, but how did you know?

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Re: Beerdetectorists; who brews this beer?

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Postby DiamondEcho » March 17th, 2019, 5:48 pm

@DM, hmmm! Well the two ABV%s match which at 5.6% and 3.5% would be quite some coincidence, but the labelling is very different. That of course doesn't rule out the Daylesford beers being precisely the Black Isle ones, just re-labelled as Daylesford's own. Googling for News on "Black Isle Brewery" Daylseford returns nothing either. All rather coy!

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Re: Beerdetectorists; who brews this beer?

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Postby chas49 » March 17th, 2019, 7:16 pm

DiamondEcho wrote:@DM, hmmm! Well the two ABV%s match which at 5.6% and 3.5% would be quite some coincidence, but the labelling is very different. That of course doesn't rule out the Daylesford beers being precisely the Black Isle ones, just re-labelled as Daylesford's own. Googling for News on "Black Isle Brewery" Daylseford returns nothing either. All rather coy!


Just out of interest I also looked at the tasting notes on both sites for both beers. The Aroma, Appearance and Flavour notes for each respective beer are identical on both sites. I think that has to be pretty much conclusive.

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Re: Beerdetectorists; who brews this beer?

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Postby dionaeamuscipula » March 18th, 2019, 11:21 am

chas49 wrote:
DiamondEcho wrote:@DM, hmmm! Well the two ABV%s match which at 5.6% and 3.5% would be quite some coincidence, but the labelling is very different. That of course doesn't rule out the Daylesford beers being precisely the Black Isle ones, just re-labelled as Daylesford's own. Googling for News on "Black Isle Brewery" Daylseford returns nothing either. All rather coy!


Just out of interest I also looked at the tasting notes on both sites for both beers. The Aroma, Appearance and Flavour notes for each respective beer are identical on both sites. I think that has to be pretty much conclusive.


...my secret is out, i googled the tasting notes.

DM


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