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Re: Remote control socket.

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Postby Itsallaguess » November 22nd, 2019, 1:56 pm

Snorvey wrote:
A good deal but apart from turning on a light if we were on holiday say and the slow cooker, I can't think of anything else to use them for.


I agree that they've got fairly niche applications, but given that one of those niche applications, certainly for me anyway, is for Christmas tree lights and external icicle lights, and given that it's nearly December, then I thought it might have been a useful offer for anyone in a similar position who was perhaps waiting for a good entry-price.

Hope you're still using that slow-cooker Snorvey - which is another great winter application...

Cheers,

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Re: Remote control socket.

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Postby Snorvey » November 22nd, 2019, 2:04 pm

I thought it might have been a useful offer for anyone in a similar position who was perhaps waiting for a good entry-price.


Absolutely!

It's been great for the slow cooker (used it maybe half a dozen times now). Last week, work seemed to grow arms and legs and we didnt turn it on till 1pm. The food was perfect when we got home later that evening. Far better than it would have been if we'd turned it on when we first left the house!

I was just wondering what other uses folk had for them

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Re: Remote control socket.

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Postby Infrasonic » November 22nd, 2019, 2:10 pm

Another niche use (that I'm going to try out soon ) is for automating a portable electric oil filled radiator that I use during extra cold periods as spot heater in my flat. It's got a thermostat, I just want to be able to turn it on remotely an hour or so before I get home (which varies in time enormously). The rest of the flat is on individual wall heaters with individual thermostats but a 'dumbish' central control panel.

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Re: Remote control socket.

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Postby Snorvey » November 22nd, 2019, 2:55 pm

I thought about that too but would a heater not be a bit heavy on the juice?

It's a fair jump from running a few leds or a slow cooker

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Re: Remote control socket.

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Postby Infrasonic » November 22nd, 2019, 2:58 pm

Snorvey wrote:I thought about that too but would a heater not be a bit heavy on the juice?

It's a fair jump from running a few leds or a slow cooker


Oil filled is pretty efficient and it's in addition to the low settings on the other heaters, so a bit of a lift rather than megawatts of volcanic heat...

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Postby kiloran » November 22nd, 2019, 3:15 pm

Infrasonic wrote:Oil filled is pretty efficient and it's in addition to the low settings on the other heaters, so a bit of a lift rather than megawatts of volcanic heat...

Aren't all electric heaters pretty much 100% efficient? Oil-filled just means they slowly build up to a gentle heat (and slowly lose heat after switch-off), rather than the quick, direct heat from a bare element.

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Postby Infrasonic » November 22nd, 2019, 3:40 pm

https://www.cse.org.uk/advice/advice-an ... om-heaters

Electric room heaters
These include ‘radiant’ bar fires (below, picture 1), warm air heaters (2), oil-filled radiators (3), fan heaters (4), and halogen heaters (5). They are all expensive to run and not appropriate as a main heat source.

Electric heaters are all considered to be 100% efficient (i.e. they turn all the electricity they use into heat), but some are more expensive to run than others because they provide more heat. The cheapest are halogen heaters and oil-filled radiators; the most expensive are bar fires and fan heaters.

If you have to use an electric room heater, use it only when necessary and consider the following:

Use a timer if it has one, if not, you can buy a timeswitch for the plug from a hardware shop.
If the heater has a thermostat make sure it’s not turned up too high.
If you are on Economy 7, avoid using it for long periods within the peak hours if you can. It's better to use night storage heaters that are charged at night.
The table below shows typical running costs for a range of electric room heaters. The actual costs will vary as electricity prices change, but what's important is how they compare with each other.

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Postby mc2fool » November 22nd, 2019, 4:25 pm

Infrasonic wrote:https://www.cse.org.uk/advice/advice-and-support/room-heaters
Electric heaters are all considered to be 100% efficient (i.e. they turn all the electricity they use into heat), but some are more expensive to run than others because they provide more heat. The cheapest are halogen heaters and oil-filled radiators; the most expensive are bar fires and fan heaters.

Errrr, right ... and in case that isn't that a statement of the dead obvious they go on to list a 2kW Radiant bar fire costing 28p/hr vs a 1.2kW Halogen heater costing 17p/hr.

So, the halogen heater is 60% of the cost of the radiant bar fire to run ... and produces 60% of the heat. How about that... :roll:

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Re: Remote control socket.

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Postby Infrasonic » November 22nd, 2019, 6:09 pm

Pedant Friday, never as popular as Black Friday...

Looking at the BIG picture around heating always helps (wood for the trees to maintain the fuel pun), it's all to do with losses.

In fact just this morning someone in a top floor corner flat at my development with huge windows was moaning about having to have their heating on virtually flat out for very little effective return. We had a chat about secondary glazing, roof insulation, future building regs in light of Grenfell affecting any leaseholder modifications they might want to try etc.

I'm in a different situation, first floor, commercial shop unit underneath with lots of lovely heaters on all day (8.30am until about 6pm), neighbors on both sides and above, windows front and back only.
So I have my fixed wall heaters set very low, they occasionally come on during the day (unless it's baltic outside obviously), and it gets a bit chilly early evening as I lose the benefit of the shop units heat below and the general air temperature drops.

So the plan is to have the oil filled radiator switch on about an hour before I get back (which varies greatly), on a thermostat setting slightly above that of the fixed heaters, leaving it in whatever room I deem the priority each morning. I can then manually adjust the wall heaters thermostats on an individual room basis as needed when I get home.

I want to try and minimise any safety/regs/insurance issues with having a free standing heat source on when I'm not there, which was partly why I chose a portable oil filled radiator in the first place (I've had it about twenty years). Everybody happy now? :D


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