kiloran wrote:I'll work on selecting the 2019 portfolio over the next few days
--kiloran
I'm looking forward to this appearing. How's it going?
Adrian
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kiloran wrote:I'll work on selecting the 2019 portfolio over the next few days
--kiloran
AJC5001 wrote:kiloran wrote:I'll work on selecting the 2019 portfolio over the next few days
--kiloran
I'm looking forward to this appearing. How's it going?
Adrian
kiloran wrote:I selected the first 10 as usual, equal weighting. None of them seemed to fail my smell test
Lootman wrote:kiloran wrote:I selected the first 10 as usual, equal weighting. None of them seemed to fail my smell test
I suspect then that we have different olfactory systems
I must admit that I rarely look at the dividend yields of my existing holdings and so was shocked to see so many ultra-high yields on many blue chip household names. That is very disturbing as it seem quite clear that such yields are not sustainable.
So either the market will scream upwards to normalise yields (the theory behind the "Dogs" presumably) or we are in for a raft of dividend cuts, share price declines and general all round misery. The paucity of dividend cover in many of these names nods me towards the latter.
Historically I have felt uncomfortable buying at anything north of a 5% yield. But to see some stalwarts of the FTSE on such stratospheric yields makes me worried, at least for the UK market.
Stock | Name | Total Return
AV. | Aviva | 18.3%
BATS | British American Tobacco | 34.8%
CNA | Centrica | -24.0%
DLG | Direct Line | 6.7%
IMB | Imperial Brands | -13.9%
MKS | Marks and Spencer | -9.9%
SLA | Standard Life Aberdeen | 34.6%
SSE | SSE | 45.6%
VOD | Vodafone | -3.9%
WPP | WPP | 27.3%
| |
Total | | 12.3%
| |
FTSE-A change | | 12.4%
FTSE100 change | | 10.3%
Name | | Historic Yield | Fcst yield | Hist rank | Fcst rank | Total rank
Imperial Brands | IMB | 11.1% | 11.1% | 2 | 2 | 4
Evraz | EVR | 7.5% | 12.8% | 4 | 1 | 5
BT Group | BT-A | 8.0% | 7.8% | 3 | 7 | 10
Aviva | AV. | 7.2% | 7.3% | 5 | 9 | 14
BHP Group | BHP | 5.7% | 10.1% | 14 | 3 | 17
HSBC Holdings | HSBC | 6.5% | 6.5% | 8 | 10 | 18
Standard Life Aberdeen | SLA | 6.6% | 6.5% | 7 | 12 | 19
Centrica | CNA | 13.4% | 5.5% | 1 | 21 | 22
BP | BP. | 6.5% | 6.4% | 9 | 13 | 22
British American Tobacco | BATS | 6.3% | 6.5% | 12 | 11 | 23
Stock | Name | Change
AV. | Aviva | -22.2%
BATS | British American Tobacco | -10.8%
BHP | BHP Group | 11.9%
BP. | BP | -42.2%
BT.A | BT | -32.4%
CNA | Centrica | -12.4%
EVR | Evraz | 27.0%
HSBA | HSBC | -36.4%
IMB | Imperial Brands | -9.7%
SLA | Standard Life Aberdeen | -10.1%
| |
Total | Total | -16.1%
| |
FTSE-A change | | -12.6%
FTSE100 change | | -14.5%
Dod101 wrote:Hi kiloran
The tsunami did not quite wipe you or me out but it certainly was pretty devastating. Looking at your picks in your post of 1 January 2020. the choices looked good (I held most of them so share your pain)
Dod
kiloran wrote:Dod101 wrote:Hi kiloran
The tsunami did not quite wipe you or me out but it certainly was pretty devastating. Looking at your picks in your post of 1 January 2020. the choices looked good (I held most of them so share your pain)
Dod
Fortunately no real pain, Dod. As explained in my original post, this DOGS thing is just a bit of fun. The choices in Jan 2020 were chosen totally mechanically, whether they looked good or not.
My main portfolio was just 1% down, so I'm happy with that.
--kiloran
kiloran wrote:... As explained in my original post, this DOGS thing is just a bit of fun. The choices in Jan 2020 were chosen totally mechanically, whether they looked good or not.
PinkDalek wrote:kiloran wrote:... As explained in my original post, this DOGS thing is just a bit of fun. The choices in Jan 2020 were chosen totally mechanically, whether they looked good or not.
Yes but with real money if I've understood correctly.
When you choose the new selection each year, do you sell the previous year's holdings to fund the new holdings or merely absorb them with your other portfolios?
Similarly, with the newly selected holdings, do you purchase in equalish tranches per holding?
Name | EPIC | Latest Yield | Fcst Yield | Latest Rank | Fcst Rank | Total Rank
Evraz Plc | EVR | 11.7% | 8.9% | 4 | 3 | 7
Imperial Brands Plc | IMB | 9.0% | 8.8% | 9 | 4 | 13
British American Tobacco Plc | BATS | 7.8% | 8.1% | 11 | 6 | 17
Bp Plc | BP. | 11.9% | 6.4% | 3 | 17 | 20
Micro Focus International Plc | MCRO | 10.1% | 6.5% | 8 | 16 | 24
Investec Plc | INVP | 5.9% | 9.0% | 23 | 2 | 25
Phoenix Group Holdings Plc | PHNX | 6.7% | 6.9% | 16 | 10 | 26
Tp Icap Plc | TCAP | 7.1% | 6.7% | 13 | 14 | 27
Legal and General Group Plc | LGEN | 6.6% | 6.9% | 19 | 11 | 30
Vodafone Group Plc | VOD | 6.7% | 6.8% | 17 | 13 | 30
Stock | Name | Capital Change | Total Return Change
EVR | Evraz Plc | 23.1% | 38.6%
IMB | Imperial Brands Plc | 3.5% | 12.4%
BATS | British American Tobacco Pl | -2.0% | 6.0%
BP. | Bp Plc | 26.7% | 32.6%
MCRO | Micro Focus International Plc | 1.0% | 5.3%
INVP | Investec Plc | 119.8% | 129.9%
PHNX | Phoenix Group Holdings Plc | -8.0% | -1.2%
TCAP | Tp Icap Plc | -36.3% | -23.9%
LGEN | Legal and General Group Plc | 14.0% | 20.8%
VOD | Vodafone Group Plc | -9.6% | -6.7%
| | |
Total | | 12.9% | 19.8%
| | |
FTSE100 change | | 14.1% |
FTSE100 Total Return | | | 18.4%
Name | EPIC | Index | Latest Yield | Fcst Yield | Latest Rank | Fcst Rank | Total Rank
Bhp Group Plc | BHP | FTSE100 | 10.2% | 9.8% | 1 | 3 | 4
Imperial Brands Plc | IMB | FTSE100 | 8.6% | 8.7% | 3 | 5 | 8
Persimmon Plc | PSN | FTSE100 | 8.2% | 8.2% | 4 | 7 | 11
British American Tobacco Plc | BATS | FTSE100 | 7.9% | 7.9% | 5 | 8 | 13
Phoenix Group Holdings Plc | PHNX | FTSE100 | 7.3% | 7.4% | 7 | 9 | 16
Polymetal International Plc | POLY | FTSE100 | 7.3% | 7.3% | 8 | 10 | 18
Vodafone Group Plc | VOD | FTSE100 | 6.7% | 6.8% | 11 | 11 | 22
Admiral Group Plc | ADM | FTSE100 | 4.5% | 8.6% | 19 | 6 | 25
Abrdn Plc | ABDN | FTSE100 | 6.1% | 6.1% | 13 | 14 | 27
Aviva Plc | AV. | FTSE100 | 6.6% | 5.4% | 12 | 15 | 27
kiloran wrote:Here are the results for 2021, and the plan for 2022
EPIC Change Yield Rank
MARS 1.85% 0.00% 27
BATS 0.94% 7.90% 28
PHP -0.92% 4.07% 29
TATE -1.93% 4.69% 30
RKT -3.06% 2.75% 31
IGG -5.68% 5.27% 32
VOD -7.18% 6.83% 33
PSON -9.88% 3.27% 34
ULVR -10.17% 3.72% 35
RIO -10.57% 14.14% 36
tjh290633 wrote:kiloran wrote:Here are the results for 2021, and the plan for 2022
Thanks for that Kiloran.
Of the 2021 picks I hold 5, IMB, BATS, BP., LGEN and VOD.
For 2022 I hold 6, BHP, IMB, BATS, VOD, ADM and AV.
My worst 10 for 2021 were:EPIC Change Yield Rank
MARS 1.85% 0.00% 27
BATS 0.94% 7.90% 28
PHP -0.92% 4.07% 29
TATE -1.93% 4.69% 30
RKT -3.06% 2.75% 31
IGG -5.68% 5.27% 32
VOD -7.18% 6.83% 33
PSON -9.88% 3.27% 34
ULVR -10.17% 3.72% 35
RIO -10.57% 14.14% 36
Which only includes BATS and VOD. Not all are in the FTSE100, of course and I am going on the share price change in 2021. I guess that they are using forecast yields and ignoring "Specials", which would account for the absence of RIO from their list.
TJH
tjh290633 wrote:kiloran wrote:Here are the results for 2021, and the plan for 2022
Thanks for that Kiloran.
Of the 2021 picks I hold 5, IMB, BATS, BP., LGEN and VOD.
For 2022 I hold 6, BHP, IMB, BATS, VOD, ADM and AV.
My worst 10 for 2021 were:EPIC Change Yield Rank
MARS 1.85% 0.00% 27
BATS 0.94% 7.90% 28
PHP -0.92% 4.07% 29
TATE -1.93% 4.69% 30
RKT -3.06% 2.75% 31
IGG -5.68% 5.27% 32
VOD -7.18% 6.83% 33
PSON -9.88% 3.27% 34
ULVR -10.17% 3.72% 35
RIO -10.57% 14.14% 36
Which only includes BATS and VOD. Not all are in the FTSE100, of course and I am going on the share price change in 2021. I guess that they are using forecast yields and ignoring "Specials", which would account for the absence of RIO from their list.
TJH
Stock | Date bought | Capital Change | Total return change
ABDN | Abrdn | -23.0% | -17.0%
ADM | Admiral | -31.4% | -24.3%
AV. | Aviva | -20.3% | -14.9%
BATS | British American Tobacco | 18.6% | 24.1%
BHP | BHP Group | 15.4% | 27.3%
IMB | Imperial Brands | 26.1% | 34.6%
PHNX | Phoenix Group | -7.7% | -0.1%
POLY | Polymetal International | -80.9% | -80.9%
PSN | Persimmon | -58.1% | -50.1%
VOD | Vodafone | -26.1% | -20.4%
Total | | -18.7% |
| | |
Total | | -18.7% | -7.1%
| | |
FTSE100 | | 0.9% |
FTSE100 TR | | | 4.7%
EPIC | Name | London | Mrt Scr | London | Mrt Scr | Total
| | SE Yld | 2023 Yld | SE Rank | 2023 Rank | Rank
MNG | Mandg | 9.68% | 10.90% | 2 | 1 | 3
PSN | Persimmon | 18.47% | 8.73% | 1 | 3 | 4
VOD | Vodafone Group | 8.86% | 9.48% | 3 | 2 | 5
BDEV | Barratt Developments | 8.01% | 8.71% | 6 | 4 | 10
TW. | Taylor Wimpey | 7.91% | 8.57% | 7 | 6 | 13
PHNX | Phoenix Group Holdings | 7.82% | 8.57% | 8 | 7 | 15
AV. | Aviva | 8.34% | 7.61% | 5 | 11 | 16
LGEN | Legal and General Group | 7.07% | 8.21% | 10 | 8 | 18
RIO | Rio Tinto | 8.43% | 6.24% | 4 | 14 | 18
BATS | British American Tobacco | 6.51% | 7.65% | 13 | 10 | 23
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