csearle wrote:Ok so I meant "sole".
Dover Sole?
Ian
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IanTHughes wrote:I did not say it (FTSE 100 yield) was irrelevant to everybody, only the HYP Strategy.
Ian
Of course it does, you win a cookie! The selection criteria for an HYP is the "Highest" sustainable yield at the time of purchase that conforms with the all important diversification criteria.Alaric wrote:IanTHughes wrote:I did not say it (FTSE 100 yield) was irrelevant to everybody, only the HYP Strategy.
I thought the H in HYP stood for "high".
Well surely that is obvious? The cut off is the yield that does not offer the "Highest" sustainable yield at the time of purchase that conforms with the all important diversification criteria. No cookie for you this timeAlaric wrote: If exceeding the dividend yield on the FTSE 100 isn't a relevant cut off, what is?
Of course I am! Just so long as the purchase offers the "Highest" sustainable yield at the time of purchase that conforms with the all important diversification criteria. Again, I would have thought that that was obvious.Alaric wrote:You surely are not advocating the inclusion of Diageo or Unilever as new purchases, excellent dividend payers that they are?
IanTHughes wrote:The cut off is the yield that does not offer the "Highest" sustainable yield at the time of purchase
Alaric wrote:IanTHughes wrote:The cut off is the yield that does not offer the "Highest" sustainable yield at the time of purchase
Your definition of "sustainable" please. Do you mean non reducing?
Alaric wrote:If so then you are failing to notice that a dividend yield of a increasing at b is better than one of c increasing at d when (a+b) exceeds (c+d) even if a is less than c.
IanTHughes wrote:[
Unfortunately I am entirely unable to foretell the future
Alaric wrote:IanTHughes wrote:[
Unfortunately I am entirely unable to foretell the future
You expressed confidence that Vodafone would not cut their dividend.
Alaric wrote:If you cannot spot the signs, don't advocate a strategy that needs such insights into Company behaviour.
Alaric wrote:"Highest sustainable dividend" by its very nature implies an ability to read both Accounts and markets. How do you know otherwise?
Alaric wrote:Past performance is not a guide to the future is a mantra that works up to a point on a whole market basis. I doubt it has a reliable application at the level of individual Companies, given the for the most part, economic conditions, Company culture, trading profitability, management actions and attitudes don't vary much from one reporting period to the next.
IanTHughes wrote:Unlike you, I do not "advocate" any strategy to anyone!
Alaric wrote:IanTHughes wrote:Unlike you, I do not "advocate" any strategy to anyone!
It's been noticed by other posters that you relentlessly attack those who warn of the risks in adopting what you term the "HYP Strategy"
Alaric wrote:The FTSE 100 contains a hundred stocks or more. Why choose Vodafone for a top up in preference to shares with a history of both increasing dividends and increasing share prices?
Dod101 wrote:The sort of silly childish exchanges on this thread contribute nothing to a helpful and co operative atmosphere and simply put people off posting, at least they do me. Mods need to get a grip.
Dod
kempiejon wrote:BT are one of my HYP's larger contributors to income just ahead of BP, SSE and Taylor Wimpey but all are within my safety and diversification limits. This is the highest yield I've seen from BT for a while now but the dividend has also been static for a couple of years. Perhaps the detractors are here to protect us from ourselves as we do not know what we are doing by investing in a diversified portfolio of high yield, large cap shares for income so thanks for that.
onslow wrote:The new CEO of BT bought just over £1m of shares a few weeks ago, presumably he wouldn't have if the divi was at risk
kempiejon wrote:BT are one of my HYP's larger contributors to income just ahead of BP, SSE and Taylor Wimpey but all are within my safety and diversification limits. This is the highest yield I've seen from BT for a while now but the dividend has also been static for a couple of years. Perhaps the detractors are here to protect us from ourselves as we do not know what we are doing by investing in a diversified portfolio of high yield, large cap shares for income so thanks for that.
onslow wrote:The new CEO of BT bought just over £1m of shares a few weeks ago, presumably he wouldn't have if the divi was at risk
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