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- Lemon Quarter
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When talking with friends and acquaintances whenever I want to acknowledge the source of the knowledge I have of something, i refer to TLF as "the on-line forum I inhabit." Until recently i inhabited only one other on-line forum so for the most part TLF gets the credit, albeit anonymously.
Having recently bought a new (second-hand) car (Skoda Octavia Estate) I registered on an on-line forum for Skoda vehicles. From browsing, very helpful and useful i expect. I have asked a couple of questions so far all of which have been answered constructively.
In an op I initiated about cherished registration number and asking what others thought about a dealership adding its website address to car number plates without permission - the dealer has used lip plates: the lip is outside the number plate regulations) - someone commenting has not shared my preference for thinking it wrong of the dealership to have done so on my registration plates (which i'd paid for on transfer of the number). Fair enough, I wouldn't expect everyone to agree with me but it was their views on the subject that I was asking about, not that I should be criticised for my preference. So what i hadn't bargained for was someone telling me in no uncertain terms I am being picky and hypocritical, as i don't seem to have any objection (I don't) to the car's insignia or any of the car parts manufacturers having their names on their parts of the car: tyres for example.
In the hope of getting the person off my back, I concluded my response with: "As far as i am concerned, it is a matter of principle and since it is my principle I am entitled to restrict it to some things and not others."
Having recently bought a new (second-hand) car (Skoda Octavia Estate) I registered on an on-line forum for Skoda vehicles. From browsing, very helpful and useful i expect. I have asked a couple of questions so far all of which have been answered constructively.
In an op I initiated about cherished registration number and asking what others thought about a dealership adding its website address to car number plates without permission - the dealer has used lip plates: the lip is outside the number plate regulations) - someone commenting has not shared my preference for thinking it wrong of the dealership to have done so on my registration plates (which i'd paid for on transfer of the number). Fair enough, I wouldn't expect everyone to agree with me but it was their views on the subject that I was asking about, not that I should be criticised for my preference. So what i hadn't bargained for was someone telling me in no uncertain terms I am being picky and hypocritical, as i don't seem to have any objection (I don't) to the car's insignia or any of the car parts manufacturers having their names on their parts of the car: tyres for example.
In the hope of getting the person off my back, I concluded my response with: "As far as i am concerned, it is a matter of principle and since it is my principle I am entitled to restrict it to some things and not others."
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- Lemon Quarter
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I guess there are all sorts of folk on all fora, but the better ones, such as TLF are well moderated to avoid issues such as this, where a poster plays the man rather than the ball.
It's obviously a personal choice as to whether the benefits outweigh the downsides, though it is normally possible to put individual posters on an ignore list so as to retain the benefits of the forum without the hassle of loudmouths..
It's obviously a personal choice as to whether the benefits outweigh the downsides, though it is normally possible to put individual posters on an ignore list so as to retain the benefits of the forum without the hassle of loudmouths..
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brightncheerful wrote:Fair enough, I wouldn't expect everyone to agree with me but it was their views on the subject that I was asking about, not that I should be criticised for my preference. So what i hadn't bargained for was someone telling me in no uncertain terms I am being picky and hypocritical, as i don't seem to have any objection (I don't) to the car's insignia or any of the car parts manufacturers having their names on their parts of the car: tyres for example.
Somebody was having an off day/was being bloody-minded because he was trying to quit the fags/was just a full-time awkward customer who gets his kicks from telling people things online that would possibly earn him a punch in the mouth if he said them face to face. (Not from you, obviously. )
It's a small matter in another way, of course. The dealer makes all its numberplates from a box of pre-printed blanks that happen to include its name, and that's why it couldn't (or didn't) make an exception for you. Just order some more plates from somewhere that doesn't do that, and forget the whole thing. Simples.
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For as far back as I can remember , cars always came with a sticker in the rear window with the dealers name , address and phone number . I've never heard of anyone complaining about it or ripping it out , so the website advert is just a modern progression .
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marronier wrote:For as far back as I can remember , cars always came with a sticker in the rear window with the dealers name , address and phone number . I've never heard of anyone complaining about it or ripping it out , so the website advert is just a modern progression .
You must live a sheltered life. There have been lots of arguments in the past about having to be a moving advertisement for the dealer. I have no problem with their name on my number plate, or with their rear window sticker.
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marronier wrote:For as far back as I can remember , cars always came with a sticker in the rear window with the dealers name , address and phone number . I've never heard of anyone complaining about it or ripping it out , so the website advert is just a modern progression .
Then you haven't heard me! When I buy a car I always specify no dealer stickers, and don't pay until they take the sticker(s) off if they forget (and they ALWAYS forget).
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marronier wrote:For as far back as I can remember , cars always came with a sticker in the rear window with the dealers name , address and phone number . I've never heard of anyone complaining about it or ripping it out , so the website advert is just a modern progression .
I'm another, I've only bought 1 car from a dealer and I did take out the sticker in the rear windows and the tax disc holder and with their branding on. My plates, as well as the car identifier, still have the group's name, a little GB and a pretty circle of stars
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kempiejon wrote:.... a little GB and a pretty circle of stars
Which no longer works for its intended purpose : https://www.gov.uk/displaying-number-pl ... dentifiers
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genou wrote:kempiejon wrote:.... a little GB and a pretty circle of stars
Which no longer works for its intended purpose
I'd still buy one if I could.
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swill453 wrote:kempiejon wrote:.... a little GB and a pretty circle of stars
I'd still buy one if I could.
You might find something suitable around Christmas time.
My parents' last car bought 1990, which we still own, has the dealer's sticker in the back. Washing inside the rear screen I noticed that some of the ink had come off. I was a bit put out, given that the dealer was local to them and the sticker is in a way a reminder and link with them, as it were.
Silly things one is attached to.
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bungeejumper wrote:Just order some more plates from somewhere that doesn't do that
BJ
It is a rather pointless law that requires the registration plate manufacturer to put their name and address on it to prevent people having misspaced number plates or coloured bolts in the wrong position to try to change the numbers or letters. Pointless as easily circumvented by ordeing 'show plates' or plates from a company outside the UK.
But if you can't be bothered with that but don't want the name obvious then get some from Halfords who use the smallest legal font size for their name and a suitable colour that isn't visible from a distance.
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AF62 wrote:It is a rather pointless law that requires the registration plate manufacturer to put their name and address on it
Pointless in more ways than one. Firstly, because it was the manufacturer's postcode that was needed, not its whole address. And secondly, because AIUI, the requirement has now been dropped altogether.
Basically, any plate supplier who doesn't ask you for your V5 (or hasn't ever seen it) is giving you plates that are fit for exhibition use only, not for road use. But as long as you behave and drive legally, the likely damage to society is slim. I once (rather naively) bought a set of show plates once, not realising that that was what they were, and my car passed five MOTs without anyone ever noticing. Then I sold it.
[Devil's advocate mode] Then again, my neighbour in Wiltshire was once accused of knocking a cyclist off a bridge in Scotland because somebody with a cloned set of plates with his reg number had done the deed. It took a surprising amount of work before he could clear his name with the police. [/Devil's advocate mode]
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I always remove the sticker of the dealership in the rear window. In fact I usually try to remember to ask them not to put it on in the first place but they always ignore my request. I really do not see why I should be an unpaid advertising agent for them.
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Dod101 wrote:I always remove the sticker of the dealership in the rear window.
Dod
I'm always wary of damaging the elements of the heated rear window, so get the dealer to remove the sticker, then it's their problem
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Dod101 wrote:I always remove the sticker of the dealership in the rear window. In fact I usually try to remember to ask them not to put it on in the first place but they always ignore my request. I really do not see why I should be an unpaid advertising agent for them.
Dod
I heard that my grandfather in the 70s sometimes did the same with supermarket carrier bags. Towards the end of his life, he was on medication that made him irritable. I think they used to charge for large bags and he would turn them inside out, explaining that he refused to give them free advertising.
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For what it's worth I've bought lots of different new cars over the years......Mercedes, Porsche & Range Rovers......never had a dealership sticker in or on the car. Ford dealerships always had stickers. So, perhaps the more you pay for the car the less chance of a sticker.
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kiloran wrote:I'm always wary of damaging the elements of the heated rear window, so get the dealer to remove the sticker, then it's their problem
Minimum heat from a hairdryer works pretty well. Anything hotter risks shattering the glass. The dealership probably uses a heat gun.
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stevensfo wrote:Dod101 wrote:I always remove the sticker of the dealership in the rear window. In fact I usually try to remember to ask them not to put it on in the first place but they always ignore my request. I really do not see why I should be an unpaid advertising agent for them.
Dod
I heard that my grandfather in the 70s sometimes did the same with supermarket carrier bags. Towards the end of his life, he was on medication that made him irritable. I think they used to charge for large bags and he would turn them inside out, explaining that he refused to give them free advertising.
Steve
That is what I would call bloody minded! Good for him.
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